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To: omegadawn

According to my legal friends ,if a request is made of Hawaiian records , obama will then have a favorable judge issue an injuction to block the release until the prosecuting attorney can prove he has a need for the records. The Hawaiian records dept has already violated Hawaiian law by issueing information about obama’s records and not releasing the records to the general public so that the information can be vertified. Our legal system is based on facts, anything obama says in public or in print needs to repeated under oath to be used as evidence. FIrst you have to get the case to court. I think we can agree that the best solution for this issue if for the Supreme Court to Constitutionally define Natural Born Citizen. Then it will be up to Congress to take the next step if it goes against obama.


The Hawaii Health Department may well have a release of information form signed by Obama that gave them permission to devulge information about his records. When a person signs a release of information form, they get to choose exactly what information can be devulged and what cannot. We will never know if there is a release of information form since they are confidential. The Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark Bennett has been consulting with the Department of Health to make sure that they don’t violate any laws regarding Obama’s birth certificate. Obama may well have given them permission to release information on his place of birth and date of birth ONLY since those two pieces of information are constitutionally required in order to qualify under Article II/Section I of the Constitution.

A grand jury INVESTIGATION is held to determine whether or not any laws have been broken. You do not have to have knowledge of the actual commission of a crime in order to investigate. Prosecuting attorneys go on what is called “legal fishing expeditions” all the time to see if they can turn over a few rocks and see if there is any dirt under them. That is what I am suggesting. If there is no dirt, then the Grand Jury ends its investigation with no indictment and Obama is cleared. He would not need to testify under oath.

Since the state of Hawaii has already confirmed that Obama’s original vital records state that he was born in Hawaii, I see no reason for him to want to have an injunction against the release of those documents. The Governor of Hawaii, a Republican, even went as far as to name the hospital in Honolulu in which he was born.

You can bet that if the Republican Governor is confirming the Hawaii birthplace story there will be nothing on Obama’s original vital records that would be released under subpoena that say anything different.

I think that it would be great if the US Supreme Court would take on an appeal that would result in a definitive definition of the term “natural born citizen” but a quicker way to that end is to have Congress pass a law defining the term and adding that definition to the current section of the US Code that covers “Nationals and Citizens-at-birth.”
There is no current lawsuit working its way through the judicial system that would result in a Supreme Court decision on the definition of a natural born citizen.


96 posted on 06/14/2010 9:58:22 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

We agree on some points and diagree on others. But as an old sixthies liberal I do respect your opinion even if it is different fron mine. I also don’t see any logical reason for obama not to release his records, UNLESS there is something in those records that will cause him to be removed from office. We may never know.


97 posted on 06/14/2010 10:45:20 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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