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Posting some gleanings from ATS of interest to folks such as are interested in this thread . . .

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread529903/pg1

About 4-6 posts down on that thread:

posted on 28/12/2009 @ 07:54

We are constantly conditioned by the media and our surroundings. Normally we are unaware of this process. Many influences are probably by chance, but some are calculated forms of social engineering. Some facts are presented in fiction movies. If you try to inform other people about these facts, you will face ridicule. “Ah, I have also seen this movie.”

Today many people believe mind control and Manchurian Candidates are just fiction. They forget about the Church Committee and MKULTRA.

In plain view hidden crimes and secrets are awful. But I think even more dangerous is, that new ideas and moral values are planted into educational programs, MSM and movies. These ideas are distributed via variuos seemingly disconnected sources. But they alter our moral values and perception of reality. The unthinkable becomes thinkable.

Before the big brother state was advanced, people lived together in a large house, isolated from the outside world but continuously watched by television cameras. Now MTV seems to show only crap of this kind. Reality TV follows people and publishes their privat live. Many people now no longer see surveillance as an intrusion.

Enemies are dehumanized until they are merely subhuman. So violence against these “hostile barbarians” becomes reasonable. This happened with Iraq and Afghanistan, now it is Irans, Pakistans and Yemens turn. But even before 9/11 and the news showing heartless fanatics, countless action movies featured arabic speaking insane terrorists, who tried to attack America for obscure reasons.

Torture as valid tool to counter terrorism is not only propagated by news pundits, but is also used in the 24 TV series. Now the majority of all US citizens believes torture is a valuable tool, which can be used to “fight terrorism”.

Computer games are sponsored by the army. They mimic real weapon systems and train children to become future drone pilots.

The scary part is, that if you suspect such a manipulation and try to warn your friends, relatives, neighbours and colleagues about such developments, they will think you are crazy. Most people believe, that they are not easily manipulated.

WORLD DEPOPULATION PLANS ON FOX NEWS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGEbLJfDnSY

posted on 11/6/2010 @ 14:35 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

World Depopulation Plan On Fox News!!!

So i’m sure most of us on here have heard plenty about depopulation, from the Georgia Guidestones to Bill Gate’s speech on TED, but now it’s actually making main stream news. so does anyone still think this is crazy conspiracy stuff haha? I really never thought i’d see the day they’d openly discuss something like this.

i like how he goes, “We don’t use the word undesirable.” i cracked up when i heard that because all i thought was, “Yeah, he probably rather use “useless eaters” like Kissinger does instead.” haha so ridiculous.

enjoy guys.

www.disclose.tv

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/47281/World_Depopulation_Plan_on_Fox_News___/

(visit the link for the full news article)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread582402/pg1

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Report of 2010 Bilderberg Meeting

The Bilderberg boys were so depressed as they gathered at the Dolce luxury hotel in Sitges, Spain June 3 that “many important people are not showing up,” because “they always find out and we get into trouble at home,” said one, echoing the sentiments of all.

Still, they hope to inflict much evil on the world. An unprecedented but fruitless effort to hide the Bilderberg meeting this year was conducting the Group of 20 (G-20) economic meeting in Busan, South Korea.

Always before, like clockwork, the Bilderberg group would meet on the same continent as the G-20: Europe or North America. This, too, proved futile. Bilderberg was greeted with a hostile press and public.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was conspicuous at G-20. The meeting ended Saturday. But, with a 12-hour time difference, Korea’s Saturday ended in plenty of time for Geithner to join his Bilderberg buddies.

Bilderberg had bad news out of the G-20 meeting. Not only was G-20 pessimistic about survival of the euro, it gave up on establishing a global bank tax following complaints from Canada, Australia, Brazil and India.

Both the international currency and international bank tax are crucial to Bilderberg’s plan to establish a world “Treasury Department.”

The London Times had an advance story headlined “Secretive Bilderberg Club Ready for Protests.” It said David Rockefeller and colleagues would be graced with the presence of Spanish Prime Minister Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who will give a welcoming address. It is routine for the head of state of the host country—except in the U.S. — to give a 30-minute welcoming address, then be required to leave.
The smallest, purely local newspaper is invited to cover this event, but no questions. The story, designed to reassure locals that nothing ominous is taking place behind the armada of armed guards, is approved by Bilderberg before publication.

Also attending from Spain were Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos and former Economy Minister Pedro Solbes.

The Guardian of London carried a commentary by Charlie Skelton, who humorously observed that Spain was hoping the arrival of Bilderberg will not have the same effect suffered by the last country to host Bilderberg. In 2009, Bilderberg met in Greece, and within a year the country was bankrupt and people were rioting in the streets.

BOMB IRAN
Sadly, Bilderberg remains committed to a U.S. attack on Iran on Israel’s behalf. But the cruel and clumsy attack on a flotilla bringing food and medicine to the besieged Palestinians in the Gaza Strip backfired, too. World outrage, including from many Jews, left Bilderberg gasping.

There is division within Bilderberg; most Americans want war, but some Europeans oppose air strikes. Many argue that Iran is not making nuclear weapons, while, they point out, Israel has had nuclear weapons since 1962. This was made public by the late Bilderberg luminary, George Ball, who was No. 2 man in the State Department under both presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson.“Iran is building nuclear weapons, which poses a threat, not only to Israel, but also to all of Europe and, potentially, to the United States,” said an American, but not to universal agreement. “We’re not sure of that,” a European countered. “And you have a lot more dead boys than we do.”” Israel may have to conduct a preemptive strike to protect itself from a nuclear Iran,” said an American, believed by the inside source to be Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency, but not positively identified. “The term ‘preemptive strike’ was invented by Israel as a synonym for waging aggressive war in 1968,” the European countered. “Israel bombed Egypt in a surprise attack, wiping out the Egyptian air force on the ground. Israel was under no threat at all.” The American walked away, shaking his head with a “where have I failed?” look.

GLOBAL WARMING
They are still trying to exploit the myth of “global warming” to establish a world “Department of Energy” although one mourned that “we are about whipped on climate change.” Leading climatologists say fluctuations in Earth’s temperature are natural. “Global warming” claims are a fraud, they say.

A newly leaked internal document “outlines how Spain’s ‘green economy initiatives’ have been a financial disaster,” reported David E. Robinson, in his newsletter Brunswick Bits Abound. The report “suggests that the real rate of job losses as a result of ‘green’ policies is in fact worse than the 2.2 jobs lost for every one gained and that the ‘green economy’ must be abandoned if the country is to save itself from economic ruin,” Robinson stated.

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread582421/pg1

The Kids Aren’t Alright

With all of the political drama happening...I just don’t think many of you realize the consequences of what is happening right now in our country.

. . .

Our kids are growing up with a poor education and no future. They have no prospects. They have no great vision. THEY HAVE NOTHING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE LEFT THEM.

They are not lazy, they are not ignorant. We left them with a path that leads nowhere.

THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. Yeah, none of the highly conservatively leaning ATS members will state this, but I WILL....nor do I care about what anyone states about me.

The Tea party movement has NOTHING compared on what is soon to come. You haven’t seen the real anger yet...and WOW....I know it’s coming.

I hope you are ready....the kids aren’t alright....THEY ARE P*SSED.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread581251/pg1

The Feminist Movement—Ruining The Image Of Men

It seems that today’s feminism is all about reducing the male gender to nothing. Continually pushing an agenda that seeks to demonize and put down the male perspective in favor of that of women.

I have seen this happen first hand in the media, court systems (primarily family court) and in societal settings in general. It seems in this day and age the women are the rulers and we are the slaves.

There’s also over the past decade or so, a movement that has arisen to ‘feminize’ men into being more women like. The age of the lumber jack and the protector are days of the past it seems. Women crave the sensitive, emo type character we see in the movies and books of today’s youth.

You could also use the new term “Metro Sexual” as the defining label to this new bread of men.

I want to open a discussing about the points made above, in regards specifically to men being looked down upon as second class citizens, and being forced to change themselves in order to be successful in what I call today’s “Woman’s World”.

http://www.belowtopsecret.com/forum/thread582530/pg1

RED DAWN 2010 release may be delayed indefinitely . . .

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread581924/pg1

INTERESTING contentions, assertions about the Jacksonville vehicles purported originally to be UN etc.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread582351/pg1

confirmed ! Russian and Japan War Ships Coming to SF

A Russian warship will pay a rare visit to San Francisco later this month.

The guided missile cruiser Varyag left Vladivostok on June 4 bound for San Francisco and will arrive on June 20 for a five-day stay.

The cruiser sailed in company with the Russian navy tanker Boris Butoma and the salvage tug Fotiy Krylov. It was not clear whether these two ships will accompany the Varyag to San Francisco.

The Russian ships are commanded by Rear Adm. Vladimir Kasatonov, and the purpose of the visit, which may include other California ports, is to promote U.S.-Russian military cooperation, according to a spokesman for the Russian Pacific Fleet.

No one at the port of San Francisco could remember the last time a Russian naval vessel visited the West Coast, though merchant ships from the Russian Far East occasionally call at San Francisco Bay.

June 20 will be a busy day on the San Francisco waterfront. Three Japanese Self-Defense Force vessels, all warships, are expected that day. If all six vessels arrive that day, it will be the largest number of foreign warships to call at San Francisco in many years.

Dat’s all folks, for now.

Enjoy. Somethings slightly different than the OThuga horrors . . . sort of . . .