Posted on 06/11/2010 4:50:18 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
BOSTON (AP) -- An undocumented Harvard University student is facing deportation to Mexico after being detained by immigration authorities at a Texas airport, the student said Friday.
Eric Balderas, 19, who just completed his first year at Harvard, said he was detained Monday by immigration authorities when he tried to board a plane from his hometown of San Antonio to Boston using a consulate card from Mexico and his student ID.
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It’s okay, he has a SS number from some obscure new england state.
What is the suggestion here? That attendance at an expensive, liberal school makes you above the law? Adios, AMIGO!
“..he was not eligible to obtain a student visa...”
That’s the point I was trying to make. Not that he was lazy. He was ineligible to enroll at Harvard. If Harvard follows the rules they enforce on all their other students....he’s gone.
...and one impolite asshole.
If pointing out a fact four different times makes me an “asshole” then so be it....some folks just can’t handle the truth and turn to ad hominem attacks because they have nothing to add to the thread...not pointing fingers or anything...LOL
If he isn't eligible for a visa, he obviously could get one even if he paid the fees. He doesn't belong here, just like any other foreigner without a visa.
Don't be such a haughty and disrespectful prick.
It’s bizarre that this trivial set of circumstances has risen to the level of a national news story. Seems that trivial situations that occur regularly to non-Harvard students rightfully do not merit a team of news reporters, but somehow we are supposed to believe that inconsequential things that occur to Harvard students are of national importance.
Once again....if pointing out a fact...a fact you don't want to understand...makes me an "haughty and disrespectful prick" in your world then so be it. You cling to the notion that this kid could just run over to U.S. CIS or down to a U.S. consulate in Mexico, pay some magic "fees" and get status. That is not reality. U.S. CIS does not issue visas and could not change his status because he has no status currently. If he went back to Mexico and applied for a student visa he would be barred from the U.S. for ten years with no waiver available. I can't wait for your new and improved insult after you review these facts which you refuse to understand. P.S. "asshole", "haughty and disrespectful prick" and "insolent" have all been used.....but I "got personal"...wow. LMAO
Kinda makes you wonder... If he’s too stupid to figure out how to apply for a student visa, then how’s he supposed to get through Harvard?
No, your pricky replies are what make you a prick. You cast dispersion upon my intelligence rather than making any point to me at all. Your very first post to me was disrepectful and personal rather than directed at the points you hoped to make. You assumed I didn't have a understanding of your posts without consideration that I didn't read or respond to your posts. You were scolding me for for not accepting you as my valued instructor and high-level informer. My comments were well outside the scope of your eligibility issue.
I understand the Visa process. My wife is from China. Her visa/green card/citizenship processing were all done in accordance with the Laws and Customs of this Nation. I was with her every step in the process, including watching the money change hands. Perhaps you don't understand that my comments related to to "anyone who can afford to pay to go to Harvard can pay the Visa fees" only supports your viewpoint that he actually circumvented the Visa process.
Another thing you don't seem to understand is that I just can't be guilty of misunderstanding your facts because I did not read your posts, nor did I respond to your posts. I responded only to the article, and only commented on the notion that Visa fees seem petty compared to Harvard tuition and registration fees. I was posting a fresh viewpoint that any rational person would take in support of your comments.
You are deficient both logic and respect.
So your position remains that all this kid needs to do is pay some magic fees and everything will be alright? Sorry, you are simply wrong. Now let’s try a little different scenario with your wife. Hypothetical: You meet her here in the U.S. and fall in love....she later reveals to you that her parents brought her here when she was three without a visa...she has no status. You meet with an immigration lawyer who tells you both that there is nothing that can be done other than “hope for a new law”. You both respond incredulously...”how can this be.....I’m a U.S. citizen....she has no criminal record....she’s paid her taxes.” After the immigration attorney reiterates his position that nothing can be done what do you do. Do you lecture your fiancee endlessly about “what does she not understand about illegal” and break up with her? Because that’s about all you could do in that situation other than her continuing to live as a “shadow-person”....Life ain’t always as black and white as some people see it...look for the shades of gray every once in awhile.
“Not eligible...third time I’ve said it...really slow learners on this thread.”
Please explain to this really slow learner why this illegal just didn’t/couldn’t go the student visa route.
He has lived in the U.S. most of his life...therefore, he doesn’t have a “residence abroad that he does not intend to abandon” which is required for a student visa. No consulate would issue him a visa in this situation. On top of that problem he has a ten year bar to returning to the United States if he leaves to get a visa. Because he has no legal wife or parent there is not waiver available to him. The “ten year bar” was passed into law in 1996 and has accounted for the huge increase in illegals who simply can’t fix their status. Once an individual accrues a year of “unlawful presence” they are subject to the ten year bar. If someone entered without a visa then, even if they marry a U.S. citizen, nothing can be done. They can’t adjust their status here and they can’t go home to get a visa due to the ten year bar. For these “stuck” people there is no fix. There are millions of these people who have been living here for ten/twenty years are more...many married to U.S. citizens with U.S. citizen children...have their own business....pay taxes...no criminal record...own homes, etc. They live in fear everyday that a simple traffic stop will lead to ICE custody and deportation. This kid was one of them.
What’s the big deal? His hearing is in Boston. Aunt Zeituni lives in Boston and she was ordered deported twice and disobeyed the judge. Hell they even gave her public housing and now she has protected status. My bet is she is getting even more aid now!
The only way you get your exercise is by jumping to conclusions. If you would have read my post for understanding, you would have known that I have direct experience with the visa process. It was pretty obvious at all stages in that process that granting a visa/green card/citizenship application was entirely at the government's discretion, even after they accepted the filing fees.
You are mistaken if you think you are the only one on this forum who understands how things work.
I am taking issue only with your manners and disrespectful and abusive attitudes toward those with whom you communicate.
The way this would actually play out would be as follows: The illegal would have to return to their country and then file papers. The people in some nations must place their names in a lottery. If picked at random from that lottery, that application would be processed into a visa. In other nations, applicants are screened by US embassy staff, and most applications are processed into a visa. Under some circumstances, a US citizen can petition the embassy through a senator's office to add favor to the selection process. Those people who are actually married to natural US citizens with clear criminal records will usually get a visa. In all cases, the visa process involves checks against criminal and health records of the person making the application. I found that the immigration authorities were very professional in all of their processing, and it was pretty clear that they were protecting the interests of our Nation as well as the well-being of those involved.
If people would use the system there would be few undesirables admitted into this Nation. Our Nation was built on immigrants, and those who process the applications know this. My concern is exactly as yours: the visa process must not be allowed to be circumvented. It is there for an honorable and just purpose: to reject undesirable intruders.
You are the only really slow learner on this forum. I am taking issue only with your really poor conversational skills and total lack of manners. You must be very young and immature.
I have not taken issue with any of your points. Are you daft?
You remain wrong on this issue and a complete jerk....I have tried to refrain from stooping to your low dialogue level....but you really are an ignorant jerk. Like the old saying goes...”a little knowledge is a dangerous thing”. You have very little knowledge on this subject but profess to know how our immigration system works. I feel sorry for your Chinese wife....she probably thinks all American men are this lame. I will enjoy showing your ignorant comments to some collegues on Monday morning....the laughter will be uproarious...LMAO at you...see ya...wouldn’t want to be ya.
Thank you for the explanation... How do you have this insight? Are you an immigration lawyer or someone close to you has been through the process?
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