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Has US bloodlust at BP gone too far?
Guardian.Co.UK ^ | 06/10/2010 | Andrew Clark

Posted on 06/10/2010 6:22:32 AM PDT by txlurker

As each day goes by, the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico becomes more gruesome. Oil-drenched birds and turtles wash up along the shoreline, pristine beaches are polluted by balls of tar and an oily slick laps at Louisiana's ecologically fragile marshland. Understandably, Americans are livid. But has the bloodlust directed at BP gone too far?

Egged on by catch-all protest coalitions, a "seize BP" campaign is organising demonstrations in major cities calling on the US government to snatch the British company's US assets. A "boycott BP" action group advocates shunning BP service stations. Placards abound with slogans such as "God bless America – go to hell BP" and "BP – billionaire polluters". The wife and children of BP's chief executive, Tony Hayward, are under police protection following threats.

Urged by political strategists to act more angrily, Barack Obama shed his uncharacteristic cool this week and declared that if it was up to him, BP's boss would be fired. The White House now wants BP to pay not only for cleaning up the Gulf, but also for the cost of jobs lost on 33 other oil rigs because of a government-imposed six-month moratorium on offshore drilling. And the US department of justice is threatening legal action to halt BP's dividend payouts to investors.

Anthony Weiner, a usually sensible Democratic congressman, declared: "Whenever you hear someone with a British accent talking about this on behalf of British Petroleum, they are not telling you the truth."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bp; oilspill
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To: LomanBill
The Founders aren't here making silly claims, just you.

Who do you imagine came into your house and took something?

201 posted on 06/13/2010 8:20:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring
>>LOL...George Bush revolutionaries?




Dubya used the phrase "Fire In the Minds of Men" in a speech regarding spreading freedom across the Middle East and the rest of the world.

The term "Fire In the Minds of Men" is attributed to Fyodor Mikhaylovich Dostoyevsky, who observed in his "The Possessed" that such "fire" is more often manipulative and destructive than it is constructive.
202 posted on 06/13/2010 8:29:23 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

>>Who do you imagine came into your house and
>>took something?

Who securitized all that Sup-prime A$$Paper?


203 posted on 06/13/2010 8:32:19 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

The Founders?


204 posted on 06/13/2010 8:33:12 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: LomanBill

>>Sup-prime

Sub-prime


205 posted on 06/13/2010 8:33:15 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Dubya used the phrase "Fire In the Minds of Men" in a speech regarding spreading freedom across the Middle East and the rest of the world.

Now you're pretending to be offended by an inaugural address written by Michael Gerson? The transnational pirate speech that broke into your home over the airwaves? Cool.

206 posted on 06/13/2010 8:55:19 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: LomanBill
Who securitized all that Sup-prime A$$Paper?

Hey, LB, I thought you worked at one of the loan origination companies...so, you broke into your own home?

207 posted on 06/13/2010 8:57:52 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

Chavez told him it’d be okay, just like the Founders.


208 posted on 06/13/2010 8:59:06 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring
>>>>>Illegal Immigration and transnational piracy isn’t real?
>>Again, WTH are you getting at?
>>Did illegals break into your home? What pirates?
 
What pirates?  Pirates like the ones wearing NyLons who securitized all that sub-prime A$$paper.    Securitized A$$Paper, much of which was rendered via predation upon illegal aliens by predatory lenders whose management essentialy maintained "we're not predators - they're illegal, and uneducated, and stupid for signing documents that aren't in the same language our account execs lied with verbally to get them to sign; we're not predators they deserved to be taken advantage of".
 
 
 
Pirates like Goldman Sachs and BP who were evidently in colusion to dump shares before the SHTF.
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2527674/posts
 
Pirates whose moral compass is evidently not calibrated in the interest of the American People.

209 posted on 06/13/2010 9:07:19 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Pirates like Goldman Sachs and BP who were evidently in colusion to dump shares before the SHTF.

Please explain further.

210 posted on 06/13/2010 9:12:17 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: LomanBill

Goldman Sachs broke into your house? Those bastards. Did you ask them why they only sold 44% of their BP holdings? Surely they would have sold 100% if they knew what was going on...wink/wink.


211 posted on 06/13/2010 9:16:27 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: Toddsterpatriot

1. In the weeks prior to the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe BP CEO Tony Hayward sold 1/3 of his BP shares, using the money to pay off his family mansion.
2. During those same few weeks Goldman Sachs shorted 44% of its BP holdings, while Wachovia and UBS sold 98% and 97% of their BP holdings.

etc etc etc...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2529003/posts?page=11#11


212 posted on 06/13/2010 9:17:43 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
That proves collusion? And why was their ESP so weak?

And who do you imagine came into your house and took something?

Goldman Sachs shorted 44% of its BP holdings

Sold, the word is sold, not shorted.

213 posted on 06/13/2010 9:20:15 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring

Quack, Waddle - aaaaarg matie, it’s a duck.


214 posted on 06/13/2010 9:21:55 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
... using the money to pay off his family mansion.

Smart guy, Tony Hayward, he's always one step ahead of those SUB-PRIME A$$PAPER PIRATES!!

215 posted on 06/13/2010 9:22:42 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: txlurker

yes..it’s ridiculous


216 posted on 06/13/2010 9:23:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: 10Ring
Whenever anyone sells stock, it's collusion.

When they buy stock too.

217 posted on 06/13/2010 9:25:51 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; mojitojoe
>>>Goldman Sachs shorted 44% of its BP holdings
>>
>>Sold, the word is sold, not shorted.
 
Evidently that's correct, thanks for the clarification.
 
Still quacks and waddles like a pirate duck, regardless 

 

218 posted on 06/13/2010 9:31:48 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 10Ring
Tony Hayward financed his mansion with sub-prime did he? That how smart is defined in the 10Ringed edition of the Newspeak Dictionary?
219 posted on 06/13/2010 9:38:09 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 10Ring
>>Hey, LB, I thought you worked at one of the loan origination companies...

That is correct.

 
"Bill was the 'go to' guy as Developers come. Always reliable not only in his time, but in his work product. Bill worked on several major initiatives that I had leadership over at ACC Capital Holdings (aka: Argent Mortgage and now Citi Residential). Key projects were Appraisal Automation, new Product line launches. I would say that Bill often went above and beyond my expectations by working late nights and weekends not only to get to the job done or meet deadlines, but to free himself up to do more and be ahead of the game! Bill is a man of integrity and cares about a job well done, he is always willing to lend a hand on issues - even from previous projects. Along with Bill's technical expertise, he can articulate the technology that he is building very well - which is a plus for clients! As I've often specifically requested Bill for my projects in the past, I would gladly recommend him for any opportunity."


>>so, you broke into your own home?

Only to the extent that those of us who recognized the corrupted "immune" forest, among the compartmentalized trees, were unable to stop what was going on.
 
Dear Mr. Lee:   I was previously employed by Argent Mortgage for two and a half years and managed, among other areas, the corporation's fraud investigation, borrower complaints and repurchase departments. There are currently over 568 open fraud investigations involving hundreds of brokers and hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent loans that are being covered up by top executives in the company. If a broker sustains a certain monthly volume, Argent management looks the other way and, not only does not suspend the bad brokers, but knowingly sells these fraudulent loans on the secondary market to unwitting investors.
  I was terminated today and left with just my purse in tow, but I have names of individuals in the company who need to be served with subpoenas to enable them to turn over their spreadsheets and boxes full of documentation and evidence of all the fraud they have found that is being covered up by Argent Mortgage's executive management. The state regulators need to know the truth about the blind eye Argent turns to the fraud perpetrated on innocent consumers by high volume brokers. They also need to be aware that Argent knowingly bundles these fraudulent loans and sells them as mortgage-backed securities on Wall Street, thereby compromising the SEC, as well as our country's economic stability.
  At a recent fraud seminar attended by hundreds of mortgage lenders in Washington D.C. a week ago, an attorney who works for Argent's retained law firm, Buchalter Nemer, stood up and told the seminar attendees that the wholesale lenders in the audience had better beware, unless their name is Argent. Argent is safe from investigation because the government got their $325 million settlement from Ameriquest and won't be looking into Argent, per the settlement agreement. I hope this isn't true because Argent Mortgage funded over $50 billion in 2005 and is gearing up to fund well over $80 billion dollars of fraudulent loans in 2007.
http://www.innercitypress.org/ameriquest.html
What would you have done, 10Ring?

220 posted on 06/13/2010 9:55:06 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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