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Has US bloodlust at BP gone too far?
Guardian.Co.UK ^ | 06/10/2010 | Andrew Clark

Posted on 06/10/2010 6:22:32 AM PDT by txlurker

As each day goes by, the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico becomes more gruesome. Oil-drenched birds and turtles wash up along the shoreline, pristine beaches are polluted by balls of tar and an oily slick laps at Louisiana's ecologically fragile marshland. Understandably, Americans are livid. But has the bloodlust directed at BP gone too far?

Egged on by catch-all protest coalitions, a "seize BP" campaign is organising demonstrations in major cities calling on the US government to snatch the British company's US assets. A "boycott BP" action group advocates shunning BP service stations. Placards abound with slogans such as "God bless America – go to hell BP" and "BP – billionaire polluters". The wife and children of BP's chief executive, Tony Hayward, are under police protection following threats.

Urged by political strategists to act more angrily, Barack Obama shed his uncharacteristic cool this week and declared that if it was up to him, BP's boss would be fired. The White House now wants BP to pay not only for cleaning up the Gulf, but also for the cost of jobs lost on 33 other oil rigs because of a government-imposed six-month moratorium on offshore drilling. And the US department of justice is threatening legal action to halt BP's dividend payouts to investors.

Anthony Weiner, a usually sensible Democratic congressman, declared: "Whenever you hear someone with a British accent talking about this on behalf of British Petroleum, they are not telling you the truth."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bp; oilspill
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To: 10Ring
[what you're saying is the lower courts find Pemex guilty, but the Supreme Court says you can't collect damages]

Typical 10Ring Circus Act discourse - which, sans anything resembling logic or reason, consists of you telling other people who their heroes are, what they "really" meant, and what they "really" believe.

IF the Mexican Supreme Court tells Texans to get stuffed; do Texans have no further recourse?

What about when Saddam told Bush Sr. to go get stuffed after invading Kuwait? Did Bush have recourse to the international community? Why yes, he did.
181 posted on 06/12/2010 7:10:15 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: txlurker
The White House now wants BP to pay not only for cleaning up the Gulf, but also for the cost of jobs lost on 33 other oil rigs because of a government-imposed six-month moratorium on offshore drilling.

Of course! It's a job killer and Barrack doesn't want to be held responsible!!!! AGAIN.

It's stupid to shut down the other rigs and it was a decision made by the Obama administration....NOT BP.

The moritoriium is further proof the Chicago thugs don't know dip-stick about drilling for oil and are too stupid to know it!

SALAZAR LIED TO MAKE A CASE FOR THE MORITORIUM.

THE RESPONSE BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WARRANTS A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION!!!!!

182 posted on 06/12/2010 7:17:15 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: lonestar

Heard on Fox news this AM that BP told obama to go pound sand on paying the economic costs associated with the govt shutting down the gulf. Good for them. Go Brits.
Seriously though, this outright assault on BP will get them to thinking about pulling out of the US entirely. Way to go dims. If you can’t tax away American jobs, you just sue them away.


183 posted on 06/12/2010 7:23:23 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: 10Ring

>>>>lines on a map at the
>>>>county recorder’s office or something?

>>Nope, but you’re used to getting it wrong,
>>so what’s the diff?

There’s no map at the county recorder’s office delineating how parcels of private property are divided?

>>...especially when the border is a river that
>>changes course repeatedly.

Oh, so you think the concept of sovereign borders is invalid because rivers change course. In the 10Ring Circus world, does that render illegal immigration legal? Does it render transnational piracy a legitimate bidness?


184 posted on 06/12/2010 7:25:52 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 10Ring
>>Chavez's "career" where you feel he acted as
>>a revolutionary
 
Maybe he was motivated, rightly or wrongly, to act like Fidel Castro?
 
Does Fire in the Minds of Men always lead to Freedom?
 
 

185 posted on 06/12/2010 7:34:28 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Texas resident
I think POTUS is really mad that EXXON-Mobil isn't responsible for the oil spill.

Chicago thugs would have nationalized them by now!

186 posted on 06/12/2010 8:12:25 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: 10Ring

As long as Prince Charles isn’t a shareholder, he’s good with that.


187 posted on 06/12/2010 10:00:31 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: LomanBill
Typical 10Ring Circus Act discourse - which, sans anything resembling logic or reason, consists of you telling other people who their heroes are, what they "really" meant, and what they "really" believe.

I see, you can ask all sorts of questions about the British Royals, pirates, criminal enterprises breaking & entering homes, Mexican law, ad nauseum. But, the minute someone asks you a question, you pop a vein. Call a whambulance already.

188 posted on 06/12/2010 11:54:44 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: LomanBill
LOL -- I love this:

Typical 10Ring Circus Act discourse - which, sans anything resembling logic or reason, consists of you telling other people who their heroes are, what they "really" meant, and what they "really" believe.

Followed by this:

Oh, so you think the concept of sovereign borders is invalid because rivers change course. In the 10Ring Circus world, does that render illegal immigration legal? Does it render transnational piracy a legitimate bidness?

Keep it real, LB!

189 posted on 06/12/2010 11:55:09 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: LomanBill
Maybe he was motivated, rightly or wrongly, to act like Fidel Castro?

So, I ask you for an example of Chavez's career where he acted as a revolutionary that is in anyway remotely similar to our Founding fathers and you say he acted like Castro. Brilliant.

190 posted on 06/12/2010 11:55:25 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Prince Charles has been known to wear a kilt, too. Must be kilt envy.


191 posted on 06/12/2010 12:00:10 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring
The Founders are just like Chavez and Castro? I don't think upping his meds is enough. Maybe electroshock?
192 posted on 06/12/2010 12:54:59 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
At this time, I'm not even sure the Ludovico technique will do:

Polls show Chavez’s policies to be increasingly unpopular among Venezuelans. According to the researcher DATOS, 58% disapprove of Chavez’s takeover of grocery chains. As Chavez has continued to embrace the Cuban regime, 86% have said they believe the Castro model is inappropriate for Venezuela.

193 posted on 06/12/2010 1:25:53 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring
At least the grocery store won't be able to exploit the Venezuelans anymore. The government stocks the shelves anyway, they might as well own the whole thing. It worked so well for LB’s hero Castro, at least.
194 posted on 06/12/2010 1:30:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring

>>>>so you think the concept of sovereign borders is
>>>>invalid because rivers change course. In the 10Ring
>>>>Circus world, does that render illegal immigration
>>>>legal? Does it render transnational piracy a legitimate
>>>>bidness?

>>10Ring says: Keep it real, LB!

Illegal Immigration and transnational piracy isn’t real?


195 posted on 06/13/2010 7:24:59 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

Who do you imagine came into your house and took something?


196 posted on 06/13/2010 7:42:49 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring
Action and motivation are two different things.
 
Regardless of what you or I might think of their actions,  the supporters of folks like Castro, Chavez, Ho Chi Mihn, and even George Bush - evidently do consider their motivations to be revolutionary.
 
Does Fire in the Minds of Men always lead to freedom? No, it does not - as  pointed out by American Conservative Magazine regarding when Dubya "The Radical Son" quoted the phrase:
‘What is he doing there?’
‘He is putting the fire out, your Excellency.’
‘Not likely. The fire is in the minds of men and not in the roofs of houses. Pull him down and give it up! Better give it up, much better! Let it put itself out.’
 
,,,
 
The fire does not break out as a result of spontaneous combustion, as Barone seems to imply: it is deliberately set by disgruntled workers acting under the influence of a nihilistic cabal. This is meant to dramatize Dostoyevsky’s view of the Russian revolutionaries of his time, whom he saw as possessed by a desire to destroy and little else.
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2005/feb/28/00007/
 
 

197 posted on 06/13/2010 7:52:14 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Who did the American Founders think came into their house and took something?


198 posted on 06/13/2010 7:54:20 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Illegal Immigration and transnational piracy isn’t real?

Again, WTH are you getting at? Did illegals break into your home? What pirates? Sure, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean these pirates aren't after you. Hope they don't get your kilt.

199 posted on 06/13/2010 8:10:54 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: LomanBill
Regardless of what you or I might think of their actions, the supporters of folks like Castro, Chavez, Ho Chi Mihn, and even George Bush - evidently do consider their motivations to be revolutionary.

LOL...George Bush revolutionaries? What were they revolting against...no new taxes?

200 posted on 06/13/2010 8:13:40 AM PDT by 10Ring
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