Has US bloodlust at BP gone too far?

Guardian.Co.UK ^ | 06/10/2010 | Andrew Clark

[LomanBill]

[what you're saying is the lower courts find Pemex guilty, but the Supreme Court says you can't collect damages]

Typical 10Ring Circus Act discourse - which, sans anything resembling logic or reason, consists of you telling other people who their heroes are, what they "really" meant, and what they "really" believe.

IF the Mexican Supreme Court tells Texans to get stuffed; do Texans have no further recourse?

What about when Saddam told Bush Sr. to go get stuffed after invading Kuwait? Did Bush have recourse to the international community? Why yes, he did.

[lonestar]

The White House now wants BP to pay not only for cleaning up the Gulf, but also for the cost of jobs lost on 33 other oil rigs because of a government-imposed six-month moratorium on offshore drilling.

Of course! It's a job killer and Barrack doesn't want to be held responsible!!!! AGAIN.

It's stupid to shut down the other rigs and it was a decision made by the Obama administration....NOT BP.

The moritoriium is further proof the Chicago thugs don't know dip-stick about drilling for oil and are too stupid to know it!

SALAZAR LIED TO MAKE A CASE FOR THE MORITORIUM.

THE RESPONSE BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WARRANTS A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION!!!!!

[Texas resident]

Heard on Fox news this AM that BP told obama to go pound sand on paying the economic costs associated with the govt shutting down the gulf. Good for them. Go Brits.
Seriously though, this outright assault on BP will get them to thinking about pulling out of the US entirely. Way to go dims. If you can’t tax away American jobs, you just sue them away.

[LomanBill]

>>>>lines on a map at the
>>>>county recorder’s office or something?

>>Nope, but you’re used to getting it wrong,
>>so what’s the diff?

There’s no map at the county recorder’s office delineating how parcels of private property are divided?

>>...especially when the border is a river that
>>changes course repeatedly.

Oh, so you think the concept of sovereign borders is invalid because rivers change course. In the 10Ring Circus world, does that render illegal immigration legal? Does it render transnational piracy a legitimate bidness?

[LomanBill]

>>Chavez's "career" where you feel he acted as
>>a revolutionary

 

Maybe he was motivated, rightly or wrongly, to act like Fidel Castro?

 

Does Fire in the Minds of Men always lead to Freedom?

 

 

[lonestar]

I think POTUS is really mad that EXXON-Mobil isn't responsible for the oil spill.

Chicago thugs would have nationalized them by now!

[Toddsterpatriot]

As long as Prince Charles isn’t a shareholder, he’s good with that.

[10Ring]

Typical 10Ring Circus Act discourse - which, sans anything resembling logic or reason, consists of you telling other people who their heroes are, what they "really" meant, and what they "really" believe.

I see, you can ask all sorts of questions about the British Royals, pirates, criminal enterprises breaking & entering homes, Mexican law, ad nauseum. But, the minute someone asks you a question, you pop a vein. Call a whambulance already.

[10Ring]

LOL -- I love this:

Typical 10Ring Circus Act discourse - which, sans anything resembling logic or reason, consists of you telling other people who their heroes are, what they "really" meant, and what they "really" believe.

Followed by this:

Oh, so you think the concept of sovereign borders is invalid because rivers change course. In the 10Ring Circus world, does that render illegal immigration legal? Does it render transnational piracy a legitimate bidness?

Keep it real, LB!

[10Ring]

Maybe he was motivated, rightly or wrongly, to act like Fidel Castro?

So, I ask you for an example of Chavez's career where he acted as a revolutionary that is in anyway remotely similar to our Founding fathers and you say he acted like Castro. Brilliant.

[10Ring]

Prince Charles has been known to wear a kilt, too. Must be kilt envy.

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Founders are just like Chavez and Castro? I don't think upping his meds is enough. Maybe electroshock?

[10Ring]

At this time, I'm not even sure the Ludovico technique will do:

Polls show Chavez’s policies to be increasingly unpopular among Venezuelans. According to the researcher DATOS, 58% disapprove of Chavez’s takeover of grocery chains. As Chavez has continued to embrace the Cuban regime, 86% have said they believe the Castro model is inappropriate for Venezuela.

[Toddsterpatriot]

At least the grocery store won't be able to exploit the Venezuelans anymore. The government stocks the shelves anyway, they might as well own the whole thing. It worked so well for LB’s hero Castro, at least.

[LomanBill]

>>>>so you think the concept of sovereign borders is
>>>>invalid because rivers change course. In the 10Ring
>>>>Circus world, does that render illegal immigration
>>>>legal? Does it render transnational piracy a legitimate
>>>>bidness?

>>10Ring says: Keep it real, LB!

Illegal Immigration and transnational piracy isn’t real?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who do you imagine came into your house and took something?

[LomanBill]

Action and motivation are two different things.

 

Regardless of what you or I might think of their actions,  the supporters of folks like Castro, Chavez, Ho Chi Mihn, and even George Bush - evidently do consider their motivations to be revolutionary.

 

Does Fire in the Minds of Men always lead to freedom? No, it does not - as  pointed out by American Conservative Magazine regarding when Dubya "The Radical Son" quoted the phrase:

‘What is he doing there?’
‘He is putting the fire out, your Excellency.’
‘Not likely. The fire is in the minds of men and not in the roofs of houses. Pull him down and give it up! Better give it up, much better! Let it put itself out.’

 

,,,

 

The fire does not break out as a result of spontaneous combustion, as Barone seems to imply: it is deliberately set by disgruntled workers acting under the influence of a nihilistic cabal. This is meant to dramatize Dostoyevsky’s view of the Russian revolutionaries of his time, whom he saw as possessed by a desire to destroy and little else.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2005/feb/28/00007/

 

 

[LomanBill]

Who did the American Founders think came into their house and took something?

[10Ring]

Illegal Immigration and transnational piracy isn’t real?

Again, WTH are you getting at? Did illegals break into your home? What pirates? Sure, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean these pirates aren't after you. Hope they don't get your kilt.

[10Ring]

Regardless of what you or I might think of their actions, the supporters of folks like Castro, Chavez, Ho Chi Mihn, and even George Bush - evidently do consider their motivations to be revolutionary.

LOL...George Bush revolutionaries? What were they revolting against...no new taxes?