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Has US bloodlust at BP gone too far?
Guardian.Co.UK ^ | 06/10/2010 | Andrew Clark

Posted on 06/10/2010 6:22:32 AM PDT by txlurker

As each day goes by, the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico becomes more gruesome. Oil-drenched birds and turtles wash up along the shoreline, pristine beaches are polluted by balls of tar and an oily slick laps at Louisiana's ecologically fragile marshland. Understandably, Americans are livid. But has the bloodlust directed at BP gone too far?

Egged on by catch-all protest coalitions, a "seize BP" campaign is organising demonstrations in major cities calling on the US government to snatch the British company's US assets. A "boycott BP" action group advocates shunning BP service stations. Placards abound with slogans such as "God bless America – go to hell BP" and "BP – billionaire polluters". The wife and children of BP's chief executive, Tony Hayward, are under police protection following threats.

Urged by political strategists to act more angrily, Barack Obama shed his uncharacteristic cool this week and declared that if it was up to him, BP's boss would be fired. The White House now wants BP to pay not only for cleaning up the Gulf, but also for the cost of jobs lost on 33 other oil rigs because of a government-imposed six-month moratorium on offshore drilling. And the US department of justice is threatening legal action to halt BP's dividend payouts to investors.

Anthony Weiner, a usually sensible Democratic congressman, declared: "Whenever you hear someone with a British accent talking about this on behalf of British Petroleum, they are not telling you the truth."

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bp; oilspill
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Dog is a fine meal.


121 posted on 06/10/2010 10:08:02 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
I believe in supporting American Companies with American values, engaging in free and honest commerce for the primary benefit of Americans.

No, you don't, because your "American resources for Americans" rhetoric would mean that other countries would be justified in using the same rationale to expel American businesses, thereby obliterating the investment and causing immense harm to the Americans who own the company. E.g. Mexico and Venezuela.

If Socialist British pensioners want charity, let them form a queue at the “church” of England’s door

Should be nominated for the dumbest comment of the year...we're talking about American pensioners who have their retirements invested partially in BP, a publicly traded company on the NYSE.

122 posted on 06/10/2010 10:16:04 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

>>expel American businesses

It’s a Republic. Not an Empire.

>>we’re talking about

Extortion.

Too big to fail, right? WRONG.


123 posted on 06/10/2010 10:20:59 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Prince Charles? That's who gets you upset? I give him as much credence as that dipsh!t Sean Penn calling for reporters who dis Hugo Chavez to be jailed. We've got plenty of domestic fruit-loops, unfortunately their export value is nil.

Why are you wearing a kilt at all? You should be in a straight-jacket.

124 posted on 06/10/2010 10:23:12 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: Toddsterpatriot

>>long term retirement prospects

“COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM”
—Thomas Jefferson


125 posted on 06/10/2010 10:25:01 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

Is the BP stockholder the master or the slave in your fantasy world?


126 posted on 06/10/2010 10:26:08 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring
[Prince Charles? That's who gets you upset?  I give him as much credence as that dipsh!t Sean Penn]

"British Petroleum until fairly recently was a holding of the British royal family, although it was "officially" privatized."
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=35937
 
 
 

127 posted on 06/10/2010 10:31:35 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
Yep, you didn't just fall off the turnip truck, LB.

With Mexico assuming the American border states progressively, and Britain once again with a strong presence in Louisiana and the Canadian border states, it appears that a great many Americans may be fleeing to Kansas, along with Dorothy.

As I said, you should be in a straight jacket.

128 posted on 06/10/2010 10:48:56 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

>>be justified in using the same rationale

What’s the point of having borders if pirates can cross them at will, rape and pillage the indigenous peoples and resources, all under the flag of incorporated “Investment”?

I honestly hadn’t given it much thought - but maybe the folks down in Venezuela’s thinking was much like that of the American Founders - who saw the exploitation of themselves and their resources as Taxation without Representation.

What representation were the citizens of Venezuela given in exchange for the removal of their natural wealth?

Were they at least given a stipend like the folks in Alaska receive? Or were they just treated as a disposable nuisance?


129 posted on 06/10/2010 10:52:54 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 10Ring

>>As I said, you should be in a straight jacket.

Will you come visit me in the Gulag?


130 posted on 06/10/2010 10:55:28 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

WTH does your link have to do with the subject? And since you are raising your kilt do you have on panties?


131 posted on 06/10/2010 10:56:42 AM PDT by txlurker
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To: LomanBill
I honestly hadn’t given it much thought - but maybe the folks down in Venezuela’s thinking was much like that of the American Founders - who saw the exploitation of themselves and their resources as Taxation without Representation.

Honestly? Honestly? WTF? Comparing the Founders to Chavez and his Marxist thieves is beyond the pale. I'm sure you'd be more at home some place like DU.

132 posted on 06/10/2010 11:02:03 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

You can bury a diamond in a pile of dog poo, it’s sill a diamond.

As with the diamond - Regardless of misdirection, the truth of the Royal’s historical ownership of BP is still the truth.

And I agree with your assessment of the Royals - Inbred Dip$hits, all of them.


133 posted on 06/10/2010 11:06:26 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: SouthTexas

Aren’t you putting the cart before the horse here? Compensation for what? Future income/profits that are not even guaranteed in good times much less recessions? Penalties before a finding of guilt, even before the trial?>>>>>>>>

Turn on your TV and you will see boats forced to stay at dock. That can’t go fishing. Certain fishing grounds are already closed. It will be worse getting worse week by week. BP should be paying these people who are being deprived of income right now

Turn on your TV. Don’t just get your news here from freepers who think corporations can do no wrong and governments can do nothing right

Lets see what happens with tourism. People don’t go to beaches with oil washing up and where they can’t get on a boat for recreational fishing


134 posted on 06/10/2010 11:18:53 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: 10Ring; Travis McGee
[Comparing the Founders to Chavez and his Marxist thieves is beyond the pale.]
 
The motivations behind their thinking; not the men themselves.
 
Sometimes Fire in the Minds of Men leads to Freedom - sometimes it just burns down the McVillage.
 
It remains to be seen what Chavez and his merry Red men can/will make of the Venezuelean village - but it's still the Venezuelean village, not yours.  As long as they keep their monkey business within their soveriegn borders, it's none of our business what they do.  Maybe they'll all eat each other, maybe they won't; but that's not for Appartchik globalists to decide for them.
 

Now answer the question about borders - what good are they if pirates can cross them at will and take whatever they want?
 
Should we just erase the border between Mexico and the United States?  Illegal immigrants are just another natural resource right; why shouldn't NyLon investors be allowed to make a profit from them?
 
Hey I know, let's "sell" them a house, securitize the sub-prime mortgage - and then dump the A$$Paper into the economic pond....  the stupid American sheeple will pick up the tab if the floaters sink - so who gives a shyte, right?

135 posted on 06/10/2010 11:26:47 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Riodacat
The value of stock in a company is equal to the total value of the company.

But what counts for retirement funds, et al, is what the stock is selling for. It may or may not have any relation to the actual value of the company, as we all know from recent events on Wall Street.

Stock prices will adjust to reflect that new lower company value.

The amount of stock issued and the value of the stock is set on the value of the company at initial offering. After that, the stock value is based on what the market says its value is. BP's stock is an example. They have billions in assets, but their stock is tanking. Why? Because with this spill, people know it is going to have a dark future - at least for some time.

136 posted on 06/10/2010 11:36:59 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: LomanBill
That doesn’t seem to be bother the “Too big to fail” NyLon beneficiaries of the bailouts; for whom the Fed has pinned interest rates to the floor.

No, it doesn't. I would hope that none of us want to be like them.

137 posted on 06/10/2010 11:38:52 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: txlurker

>>WTH does your link have to do with the subject?

Subjects, actually - Royal. NOT!

If British Royal-subject Pensioners want charity, let them line up at the door of the “church” of England.

And if American Citizen Pensioners take a whipping, let the pain sink in deep in order for future generations to be less inclined to empower America’s former Royal masters with the the fruits of our resources and labor.


138 posted on 06/10/2010 11:44:26 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: MEGoody

>>I would hope that none of us want to be like them.

American citizens have always demonstrated their compassion. That is as it should be.

Ask and the needed will be given.

Pirate, demand, or try to take via dishonest scales, however... and the “Special Relations” are likely to see the moons rise and wave from across the pond.


139 posted on 06/10/2010 11:51:34 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Robbin

“I HATE SEIU, but I’m not stupid enough to back companies that rape our natural resources. Hell, this is a FOREIGN country and YOU STILL DON”T CARE THAT THEY ARE DESTROYING THE GULF COAST.”

And they never will care. BP is an oil company, therefore they will kiss it`s ass to hell and back.


140 posted on 06/10/2010 12:09:50 PM PDT by chessplayer
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