"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!
Posted on 06/09/2010 8:09:59 PM PDT by TaraP
Nessy.
The Elder Gods have returned!
[and I, for one, welcome our new tentacled overlords]
Well, it sure the hell is.
That or a dinosaur (Bronto?) spectre, manifesting to say oh yes this is fossil fuel!
Bizarre. Nightmare post of the day:
Yup. They are already telling people in Florida who have COPD to stay away from the shoreline because of the stench of the oil. And workers need breathing masks and talk about the incredible stench. Wait till the really humid time of summer starts and people have to breathe a cocktail of oil and corexit. Even people who don`t have COPD will quickly get it. I can easily envision a mass evacuation of the gulf states as the water becomes too toxic to drink and the air becomes too toxic to breathe. And the southern winds will push that toxic air more and more northward.
from
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2530980/posts?q=1&;page=51
99% of everything that exists is invisible.
That post was overflowing.
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!
The Thomas Jefferson is a serious research vessel. It’s excellent to have it now looking at the “spill”.
I’m looking forward to what they find. It may well be the first time we get facts we can put some trust it - at last.
Looks like Nessie!
Or lives in total darkness, only to be captured for a fleeting moment when silhouetted by the moonlight...
Click the Pic
We were looking at photos yesterday, on a sailing forum, of folks enjoying themselves on the beach and in the water at the Hilton on Navarre (sp?) Beach on Pensacola.
These are intelligent, educated people, some with professional scientific doctorates. They were not experiencing any ill effects, except perhaps from the Margaritas. The water was clear, the beach was white, there were people and boats everywhere, having fun and blogging about it. Trust me, these folks are not going to expose their expensive sailboats and other water toys and their children to anything toxic. Oh, and the Coast Guard is around, too, doing the usual boat inspections, citing folks for drinking or not wearing a PFD. You would imagine they were all out on extended duty, fighting the spill.
This *ghost* is just a way to generate Mass Hysteric Psychosis. In an asymmetric manner, another front has been opened up on the economy and the American people. The grants are appreciated, as well.
Yes, there is an ugly gusher of oil and gas spewing from the bottom of the ocean. But this is not Apocalypse. Similar things have happened before and the planet has recovered. This is one of those crises that should never be wasted.
Oh, and “that toxic air [pushing] more and more northward.” will be blown apart by the winds, will be diluted by the atmosphere, will wash out in the rain and the dew, will be degraded by UV and will probably be blamed for every attack of blight, aphids and blossom end rot from the Gulf to the Canadian border. Except those winds don’t normally blow straight North and at a certain point, they are disrupted by prevailing winds from the West.
The Explorer may be a serious research vessel. But, then, East Anglia was a serious university with a serious climatology program.
Why would we trust their findings? Because they are on a *serious research vessel*?
Do you trust the climate researchers from serious universities? Do you trust government researchers at serious research institutes? Do you trust the scientific press, funded by government grants? And if you do trust all these entities, do you trust them immediately, on the basis of their authority or do you perhaps wait to see what the analysis of their findings are when subjected to rigorous review and replication?
Perhaps you can trust their findings. Do you trust the mass media to interpret those findings, as presented to them ,and then to disseminate those findings in an articulate, honest and scientifically accurate manner to the populace?
These aren’t climate researchers. And they don’t have either the government’s or BP’s bias.
They know their science, they have good instruments. I’ll put them at the top of my credibility scale until something better comes along.
BTW: Mark Levin was touting the Thomas Jefferson getting to the site. So, I think, you can add his vote to their credibility.
Thanks. I don’t base my conclusions on argument from authority. Not even Mark Levin’s.
I am not saying that nothing is happening. I don’t care for the BP/Fed nexus. I don’t think there is no damage to the LA and TX coast. But I saw an FNC clip from Orange Beach, AL today. Boats at the marina. A bit of sheen on the water. Ever been to a marina? There is always some sheen between the boats at the docks. Oh, and some days, if the weather is nice and everyone is using their boats, you can smell the diesel fumes, right there at the dock. Even sailboats use the outboard to get from dock past the channel markers. But, there was that 2’ (max) of sheen and the restaurants were empty. BUT, all the boats were just sitting at the dock. Sailors do not allow their boats to sit in foul water. If they must (and I fail to see why, unless the boat is large enough to need a lift to get it in and out), then, at the least, there would be anxious owners on the boats and the dock or even in the water, making sure there was no damage and cleaning whatever needed to be cleaned.
I do not think this frantic press about ghost plumes is without its own questions. And I am chagrined to discover conservatives ever ready to spread fear, doom and doubt.
IMO, it is essential to step back, analyze the information in context and draw conclusions when and as appropriate. After all, it is done. What possible good can be accomplished with all this breathless attention to a *ghost plume* that appears, so far, to be a whole lot of nothing.
Unless, of course, it will be making good use of the crisis.
So, after all that, I'm supposed to believe your opinion?
Too often, within recent memory, people have gotten all heated up about something, from the tsunami that never happened in Hawai’i to the genocide from the H1N1 vaccine to the supposed banning of home gardens by an act designed to regulate food processors, to nuclear winter from Eyjafjallajokull, only to go silent as it proved not to be the degree of catastrophe they were certain that it was and to transfer their FUD to the next event that occurred.
By the same token,when questioned, people will huffily assert that someone of authority backs their POV, only to fall silent again when it turns out that the authority begins to backpedal and qualify their own assertion, having spoken too soon, themselves.
But, that is only my opinion. If you prefer to return to hysterical reliance upon people you don't know, who have actually said they aren't quite sure if they have found anything and don't know if they even have the ability to eventually find anything or if it even exists at all, but who happen to be aboard what a radio host terms a serious research vessel, go right ahead.
Other than your own.
If you prefer to return to hysterical reliance upon people you don't know..
I don't know you. I know the Thomas Jefferson"s qualifications. Your's?
Whatever.
This is a discussion forum. I am not demanding anyone agree, disagree, run around like a headless chicken or take a snooze. I have stated my positions, my reasoning, my conclusions and the actual content of the researchers’ comments. You do whatever it is you wish.
BTW, the Jefferson is simply a ship. It has even been retrofitted for this task and has no qualifications, per se.
Perhaps you can do some research on those aboard, their affiliations and their academic and scientific histories, since you are so intent on placing trust in a ship.
Speculation about what really happened to the well, the lining, the sea bed, along with sub-surface oil, and the flow rate ranges wildly and I'm hopeful to get at least some real data.
The Thomas Jefferson's expertise is in mapping the sea bed - it's taking time off now from mapping the gulf near Galveston.
It's also operating a variety of advanced measurement devices to provide more accurate raw data in several areas that we don't have now. Here's just a couple of the instruments they'll be bringing to bear on learning more about what's really going on:
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