Posted on 06/07/2010 9:29:58 PM PDT by oc-flyfish
I know you did.
Man, that’s the truth. Well, it really wouldn’t take a whole lot of planning to get your own small group together and decide what your purpose will be when the SHTF. Getting and staying in touch with reps from other groups will establish a working network and will greatly facilitate the sharing of resources and information. A lot can be said for leaderless resistance. It may be the best course of action for restoring our Republic and making things right.
shhhhh...don’t say that to loud, they are listening.
Airdale, what bird did you work on? I was a Skyhawk tech.
What makes you think the government is capable of a) recognizing the threat, and 2) being able to do something about it?
And, most importantly, why should the government be the one to intervene? Private industry has the financial incentive to fix the problem, quickly so they can generate profits.
I was stuck in Training Command down in Texas and at Fallon.
Ran simulators, taught navigation and how-to-make-crispy-critters-out-of-SAMs.
Already been here. This is just another step.
Fidonet?
Rut roh
I know you know.
What am I thinking now?
Love Fallon, never thought “ranching” could be so much fun until I went to the Lazy B ranch.
We both know the military has had the technology to do allot of things, for many years and have not abused that power, much.
The highest bandwidth available now is a 747.
A packet (planeload) of paper records to India for data entry, and a couple boxes of tapes back. much faster and more secure than bouncing signals off satellites or squeezing them down a wire.
Because they are. I've seen it. OTOH, it's not necessarily government employees, also contractors working at government network operations centers.
And, most importantly, why should the government be the one to intervene?
National defense. We have to stop thinking about this as just a civilian computer security problem. It is a foreign attack on our country. It is war.
For this to work, you'd probably need an alternate DNS infrastructure.
Then again, they could take things down completely by shutting off offending networks, in which case, you wouldn't be able to get through, even if you had addresses to go to.
Time to look at fidonet again. Problem is, I don't even own a modem anymore.
Sorry... I know several guys that are no longer alive and their stations were taken and used in government monitoring stations. Some got their equipment back and some did not... but confiscate they did.
LLS
BTW FWIW
Has anyone else gotten this email?
Any further confirmation?
Purportedly verified by 3 sources. . .
My source has their own very reliable high level contacts and would not have sent it out if it wasn't considered true.
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Intercessors,
For you who wanted information on the warnings of arrest served to 14 State Governors - below are two articles. The first one is copied from The European Union Times, the site so many of you had trouble opening. Try it again because there was a typo in the address. The second article is from another writer and his contact information is included at the bottom.
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/obama-threatens-14-us-governors-with-immediate-arrest/
Home » Manipulation, North America, Politics, Suppression » Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
Posted by Europe on May 26th, 2010 // 156 Comments
A chilling report from the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) prepared for Prime Minister Putin warns today that United States President Barack Obama has had served on 14 US Governors National Security Letters (NSLs) warning that if their actions in attempting to form what are called State Defense Forces are not halted they will face “immediate” arrest for the crime of treason.
The use of NSLs in the United States was authorized by the Patriot Act law enacted after the September 11, 2001 attacks and forbids anyone receiving them from even acknowledging their existence, and was reauthorized by Obama’s “rubberstamp” Congress this past February over the objections of both civil and human rights groups who warned they mimic similar type “government security notices” enacted under both the former German Nazi and Soviet Communist regimes.
To the issue angering Obama against these State Governors, this report continues, is their attempt to reestablish what are called State Defense Forces which are described as follows:
“State Defense Forces (SDF) (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, or State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States.
State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state. State Defense Forces are distinct from their state’s National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities.
The federal government recognizes State Defense Forces under 32 U.S.C. § 109 which provides that State Defense Forces as a whole may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the Armed Forces of the United States, thus preserving their separation from the National Guard.”
Important to note is that Obama, as President of the United States is also its most powerful military leader known by the term of Commander in Chief , and is authorized by the Militia Act of 1903 to federalize his individual States National Guard Forces putting them under his command, something he does not have the power to do with State Defense Forces.
Obama’s fear of these State Defense Forces, this report says, rests with his not having power over them, and with the bulk of the US Military Forces he does control being stretched to near breaking with the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would leave these State military forces under the control of these Governors in “defacto control” of the United States.
The two US Governors spearheading this rebellion against Obama, this report states, are the Republican opposition party Governors of Minnesota, Tim Pawlenty and Texas, Rick Perry; both of whom have a deep fear their President is destroying their Nation.
Governor Pawlenty’s fear of Obama is that since he took office he has appeased America’s enemies while at the same time shunning some of America’s most stalwart allies, especially Israel. Governor Pawlenty recently castigated Obama for abandoning the US missile defense plan for Europe by saying, “The lessons of history are clear: Appeasement and weakness did not stop the Nazis, did not stop the Soviets, and did not stop the terrorists before 9/11. We must stand strong with allies like Israel and eastern Europe in the face of growing challenges to our national security.”
Governor Perry has blasted Obama and warned his fellow Texans that the President is “hell bent on socialism” and is punishing his State by dumping tens-of-thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants into their cities and small towns. Governor Perry further warned Texans that that if “Barack Obama’s Washington doesn’t stop being so oppressive, Texans might feel compelled to renounce their American citizenry and secede from the union.”
Note: Following the end of the Civil War the rights of the individual US States to succeed from the Union was heard by their Supreme Court in a case called Texas v. White (1869) and who ruled that the Constitution did not permit States to secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding States intended to give effect to such ordinances, were “absolutely null”. However, the decision did allow some possibility of divisibility “through revolution, or through consent of the States.”
Obama, in fearing a revolution against him by the States, this report continues, has moved swiftly against them, including nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in Governor Pawlenty’s Minnesota in what is being described as their State’s largest call up of troops since World War II. Other reports coming from the United States are stating that Obama has also nationalized the National Guard forces in Georgia, Alabama, Kansas, and perhaps Texas too.
Though Obama may have taken from these dissident States their National Guard forces, the Governors of the States of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia still have under their sole command their State Defense Forces to go against US Federal forces.
Important to note in this report is its stating that there are no US laws prohibiting National Guard troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces, but would create a dilemma for those soldiers should they be called to service by them both at the same time. This dilemma occurred for many American soldiers during their Civil War with the great majority of them choosing to serve their States instead of the Federal Government.
To Governor Pawlenty’s fears of Obama appeasing America’s enemies, while at the same time harming its longstanding allies, their remains no doubt as during this past week alone he has put Israel’s security in grave danger by releasing previously classified US documents relating to their nuclear programme, while at the same time removing sanctions on Russian arms makers supplying Iran. And in a move that even Russian military analysts are calling “insane”, Obama this week said he has decided to pre-announce to the World once-secret American ballistic missile tests and satellite launches.
To Governor Perry’s fears of Obama socializing the United States their remains no doubt either, and as we can read as reported yesterday by the USA Today News Service:
“Paychecks from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal income in U.S. history during the first quarter of this year, a USA TODAY analysis of government data finds.
At the same time, government-provided benefits — from Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps and other programs — rose to a record high during the first three months of 2010.
Those records reflect a long-term trend accelerated by the recession and the federal stimulus program to counteract the downturn. The result is a major shift in the source of personal income from private wages to government programs.”
And in an even worse move against his own people who are still struggling to survive the growing Global economic collapse, new reports from the United States are stating that a “secret” programme found hidden in Obama’s socialist healthcare law called the Community Living Assistance Services and Support Act (CLASS Act) is about to take from them another $150-$250 a month from their paychecks forcing tens of millions more of them into abject poverty and debt slavery.
To the final outcome of these events it is not in our knowing, other than to remind these Americans of Dr. Igor Panarin’s 2008 prediction of the fate lying in store for them, and as we can read as reported by London’s Telegraph News Service in their article titled “US will collapse and break up, Russian analyst predicts”, and which says:
“Igor Panarin, a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian foreign affairs ministry, said the economic turmoil in the US had confirmed his long-held belief that the country was heading for extinction in its present form.
In an interview with the Russian newspaper Izvestia, he outlined how the US would divide along ethnic and cultural lines.
They are: the Pacific coast with its growing Chinese population; the increasingly Hispanic South; independence-minded Texas; the Atlantic Coast; a central state with a large Native American population; and the northern states where – he maintains – Canadian influence is strong.
Alaska could be claimed by Russia, he said, claiming that the region was “only granted on lease, after all”.
He said the country’s break-up would be accelerated by rising unemployment and Americans losing their savings.
“The dollar isn’t secured by anything. The country’s foreign debt has grown like an avalanche; this is a pyramid, which has to collapse,” said Prof Panarin.”
And to those Americans believing they will be able to defend themselves against the fast approaching onslaught meant to destroy them they should think again, for even as these words are being written, Obama, through the United Nations, is preparing to disarm them all under the so called UN Treaty On Arms Control that he ordered his government to sign.
The late great American dissident comedian George Carlin once said, “It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it”….one can only hope these poor souls will awaken from their long slumber before all is lost.
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Has anyone heard anything more on this?????
Sent to me by a sworn buddy of mine in AZ. It's his words below. This is FYI.
Ok-now is a good time to worry. [Qx note: NOT for authentic believers in the trustworthiness of ALMIGHTY GOD.]
This is a semi-official report, not disseminated to the public, FYI.
By Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki Wednesday, May 26, 2010
Barack Hussein Obama had served 14-State Governors in the United States, National Security Letters (NSLs) warning that the Governor's actions in attempting to form 'State Defense Forces' needs to be halted 'immediately' or they will face arrest for the crime of treason.
The employment of NSLs was authorized by the Patriot Act introduced by George W. Bush. Contained within the section related to these letters, it is forbidden for anyone receiving a NSL warning to even acknowledge the existence of said communication.
Obama is angered by the several State Governors who have reestablished 'State Defense Forces.' These forces are described as: 'State Defense Forces' (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States . State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state.
State Defense Forces are distinct from their state’s National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities.”
Mr. Obama is fearful of these State Defense Forces, in that he does not have control of said forces, and with the U.S. Military stretched to near breaking from multiple deployments and theatre actions in Iraq and Afghanistan , these State military forces would be under the direct command and authority of the Governors in which states have said forces. In essence, the Governors would have “de facto control” of the United States .
The two Governors leading this move are: Tim Pawlenty, Governor of Minnesota ; and Rick Perry, Governor of Texas . Both of these State Governors stated they have: ““deep fear the President is destroying their Nation.” Governor Pawlenty’s fear of Obama is that since Obama took office he has appeased America’s enemies and has shunned some of America’s strongest allies, especially Israel . Governor Perry has declared that Obama is punishing his State of Texas by dumping tens-of-thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants into the cities and small towns of Texas . Governor Perry further recently stated: “If Barack Obama’s Washington doesn’t stop being so oppressive, Texans might feel compelled to renounce their American citizenry and secede from the union.”
Obama fearing a revolution against him by the states, has moved swiftly by nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in multiple states; Georgia, Alabama , Kansas , Minnesota , Tennessee , Virginia , Louisiana , South Carolina “ to name a few. The Governors of the Great States of Alabama , Georgia , Louisiana , South Carolina , Tennessee , Texas , and Virginia still have under their Command-and-Control the State Defense Forces to go against U.S. Federal forces should the need arise. Also important to note: There are NO U.S. laws prohibiting National Guard troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces.
This dilemma occurred during the Civil War with many “citizen soldiers” choosing to serve their states instead of the Federal Government.
This is a fluid and still developing situation that warrants close attention.
Lyle J. Rapacki, Ph.D.
Protective Intelligence and Assessment Specialist
Consultant at Behavioral Analysis and Threat Assessment
Independent Intelligence and Information Warfare Analyst
FBI InfraGard-Arizona
ASIS-International
It's the old "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes driving down the highway" networking canard.
But, as usual, the latency SUCKS.
Sigh
Yeah, right . . . by OThuga’s globalist goon gestapo.
Thanks for the ping!
Only got to Fallon on short visits, pretty well stuck between the barracks, chowhall and long busrides out on the range (every one of ‘em after I got married), so only heard about the ranching second-hand.
Anyway, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
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