Posted on 06/07/2010 9:27:10 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
HIALEAH — For Gerardo Regalado — half-brother of former New York Yankees pitcher Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez — it was obvious his young, pretty wife was moving on.
"I'm stupid because I had everything and I threw it away," he wrote on the Facebook page of his wife, Liazan Molina, 24, whom he had brought to the United States from Cuba in 2007 and called "the love of my life."
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WHy can’t these murderous fools put a bullet instead into their own heads first and save a lot of grief?
I despise people like this.
It’s just a Cuban crime of passion, messy and old fashioned....that’s what the papers did say....up in America...
Why do men do things like this? You never hear of women shooting nine people and then committing suicide because of some guy. (We just take him to court.) Seriously, what is it about men that makes them kill a lot of people, including sometimes their children, because some babe won’t have them?
Well it could be that women hurt men a lot deepr than men hurt women.
But that can't be true, because women have long declared themselves to be far more hurt by men.
Also, it could be that even though women do occasionally kill all their children or cut off genitals of their men, statistically they are more prone to making someone's life a sadistic hell for 30 years, rather than get it over with in one big bang.
Also, women tend to get laws changed so that they can, for example, get men thrown in jail simply by declaring themselves afraid, make men lose their jobs simply because of an unbacked accusation, destroy the entirety of a man's wealth simply because they married him for awhile and then want a divorce (even if they are the one who cheats) or take away a man's children in divorce court simply because they are female.
So if you look at the total number of men versus the number of men who go berserk and commit murder, you get an extremely tiny ratio of violent men.
But if you look at the number of women wreaking sadistic havoc in men's lives, backed by the law, while they brag about what they are doing and even make open jokes about it, you get an absolutely gigantic ratio.
Want more evidence? Just posting this opinion, in many academic, government and coprorate environments, would get me fired. But you can post your question in the same places with impunity.
You’re absolutely right about all the awful things women do to men. I am the very last to defend others of my sex. Yet I must point out two things:
First, many of the men who go mad like this haven’t had all this stuff happen to them. They had some chick dump them. They haven’t been arrested and falsely accused, they haven’t been made to pay child support for some other guy’s child, they haven’t even lost their children. The pattern is often that the woman has left the guy (who is not a paragon of stability anyway) or has said she is about to leave him. And she had better not leave him, so she gets shot. Note, there’s nothing in this article about this lady shafting her husband for thirty years or making his life hell.
Second, men can make women suffer emotionally just as deeply as we make them suffer. Believe it or not as you choose—and you sound too bitter to believe it, so I’m just writing this to be on record—but we women do love men profoundly and endure deep, sometimes irreparable emotional agony when our love is betrayed.
True but don’t know if this applies to him. It seems like the ones that you would expect to go postal don’t and the ones that didn’t get a raw deal do (OJ Simpson). Too bad for the other women that happened to be women when this guy decided he hated all women.
What women do is rarely - if ever - "written up." It's covered with denial, and normalized through legalities, and protected by claims of victimization. So in the end, the whole point is that there is literally "nothing" to "write up" - by definition. That's the whole point of all of these techniques - to get them considered to be non-activities.
Now, as a case in point, look at your own technique. First you say: First, many of the men who go mad like this haven’t had all this stuff happen to them. They had some chick dump them.
Then you say: ...we women do love men profoundly and endure deep, sometimes irreparable emotional agony when our love is betrayed.
Do you see just a teensy bit of difference betwen your utterly dismissive, trivialization and rejection that men could possibly... how did you put it? "love profoundly and endure deep, sometimes irreparable emotional agony when our love is betrayed?" Oh no - with guys, we're just "dumped by some chick." Whereas it takes frickin' Shakespeare to describe a woman's feelings.
Yet your actions are carefully crafted - just look at the effect of that single technique. By treating the feelings of the guy with contempt, you strip out the depth of emotions that would validate the existence of his profound pain. Then once you've done that, the guy is left without any rational explanation for his actions, but that in turn means there was nothing he was exepriencing that the woman could have caused.
It's slick - constantly put down men, treat them like dogs, mock them, dismiss them, and why? Not just for sadistic enjoyment, but especially so there will be no evidence that a women has ever harmed a sensitive, loving, deeply hurt human being - because you deny that men are such beings. Women not only do this all the time - they LAUGH about doing it. And it's an atrocity that causes staggering, endless harm to men.
Then you say: Believe it or not as you choose—and you sound too bitter to believe it, so I’m just writing this to be on record...
See, you couldn't stop yourself from making a personal attack. You express a question that singles out men completely separately from women as literally crazed murderers without a shred of meaning, and you consider your question rational and measured. Yet when I point out that since both men and women are human, and women would only act so extremely (albeit in their own fashion) when profoundly hurt, then men must be similarly profoundly hurt, you feel very comfortable in labelling me "bitter."
Why? Because I'm pointing the finger at female responsibility for the social legitimization of contempt for men, even to the point of reducing them to subhuman status. And if I'm regarded seriously, and my points are considered rationally, that could expose women's behavior to scrutiny - which must be stopped. Therefore - question my sanity. Slander my equanimity. Use a derogatory label on a passive-aggressive way so you can deny it, and simultaniously continue the denial of the profundity of a man's capacity to be profoundly hurt by a woman - while claiming that very sensitivity for women alone.
It's hypocrisy, and it's ripped our country in half. American women are drunk on a poisonous fire that has turned their lives into hell, because they're addicted to defaming and emasculating men in order to avoid responsibility and enjoy that abusive power. And then they cry that they can't find a real man and that they're lonely - and blame it on a LACK of "real men!"
Well, real men exist - they're the ones who see through all of this crap. And they have no intention of having anything to do with women who are drunk on hypocritical abusiveness, no matter what nasty names they get called for seeing it clearly.
And that is the truth.
You make some interesting and serious points very well, indeed. You’ve given ME a lot to think about, that’s for SURE. I hope that the women who read this will actually THINK about what you’re saying instead of just blowing you off as a bitter clinger of a shell of a man.
Keep talking, brother!
Control.
We must control.
"The pattern"? You're conflating a common "pattern" of an upset guy not wanting a woman to leave him, with an upset guy who shoots a woman for having left him!
Except for the little part about a hundred million upset guys losing their women in various relationships who DON'T shoot them, your argument has a certain emotional appeal - kind of like the anti-gun arguments that conflate one home gun accident with millions of similar home gun situations that don't endanger anyone.
Here's a better "pattern," based on the facts - and the facts are that the guy shot the woman AND her girlfriends. The incident reports are designed to quote bystanders who were terrified and saw someone "go berserk." But suppose he killed those who enraged him, and so he chose her girlfriends because they helped her hurt him.
Not break up with him - hurt him.
I told you, contempt for men among women is everywhere. Women joke about hurting men. Movies, comedies, sitcomes, books, magazines all obssess about how to act towards an "abusive" man. And all of them have one thing in common - man bad, woman good.
Well what if it's not that simle? Or what if it's actually the reverse? But let's make it simle - what if the guy is in love, and the girl is not. What does she - and her girlfriends - turn to, to figure out how to deal with a guy SHE wants to "dump," as you said?
Movies, comedies, sitcomes, books, magazines, that's what. And those sources treat the guy like an abuser. They justify harsh disconnects - "dumps." They tell women to "support each other." And they teach how to hide behind all sorts of social walls to get the job done.
As a result, instead of being able to deal with problems in their relationship, perhaps the guy was suddenly assaulted by an integrated wall of dehuminizing techniques, disconnected from the intimacy her shared with his girfriend and forced to deal with a female committee who learns what to do from the slash-and-burn contempt on "Sex and the City."
If he's just "a guy getting dumped" who wanted some ass, as the women are told by the media, then he'll just snarl back and move on. But if he's not, those techniques are like taking a bulldozer and flamethrower to a garden. But they are convenient, and emotionally protective of the woman, and hey - everybody's doing it. And the VAST majority of the time it works fine. Sure, they gnag-rape the guy's heart into shreds. But a few drinks and laughs with the girls, and it's time to "move on." And "at the end of the day" he's gone, and the woman is "free."
Except every once in awhile that level of emotional and psychological savagery and hypocricy and cowardice... trigger insanity. After all, millions of women practicing the same violence in lockstep with media instruction will, statistically, end up shattering someone somewhere. And then boom.
Is the guy wrong? Of course. But there is a difference between wrong and meaningless. Human beings can snap, they can break. Women know all about this - they claim it for themselves and trumpet endlessly about their needs, vulnerabilities, requirements, and emotional limitations beyond which they are not responsible, need compassion, understanding, support, help and forgiveness, no matter what they've done.
But if a man breaks, he's a heartless bastard that deserves to be destroyed.
You might think I am arguing for a change in things. I am not - because it's pointless. Women will only start respecting men when they start to realize the hell they are creating for themselves by unfairly and obsessively trashing men. I don't believe anything can be said to stop their abuse at this point - nothing. First of all, legally and socially, it works for them in the short run. And second of all, they enjoy the taste of the blood.
And third of all, it naturally organizes them into voting blocks, so there will always be money behind keeping it going.
So it won't stop until women finally realize they've been taught to destroy their own lives by lying about the inherent goodness of men. Because when they do, they'll finally be able to feel good about themselves without needing "teams" and "groups" to praise them in order to avoid their guilt.
Talisker, your posts are pitch-perfect.
I am a female who has tried to get this message across to other females, including my daughter.
Women are not perfect or above scrutiny in relationships or life. As I tell my daughter, if you want to hear truth, have an honest discussion with a man. I have found that most men will give you more honesty than your girlfriends. Which is why most of my friends are male.
Many men love deeply - I know that love and it’s amazing. More women need to cherish our men the way we want them to cherish us.
You told a necessary truth in this thread. I truly hope some will read for comprehension not cherry-pick phrases.
Getting dumped != killing people
Think about all the damage that is done to the children. They are the innocent victims of this war. People are far too selfish. They are locked in the “what I want or what I feel” frame of mind.
Our country deludes itself by thinking that all cultures are equal and that massive immigration from the Third World is a good thing. This guy came here in 2007. We would have been much better off had he stayed at home.
“Some babe?”
It was his wife.
Maybe he took it seriously.
Well, I’ve sure learned my lesson! I’ve learned that I’d better not
1. Ask why a man might shoot not only his wife but innocent people, including children;
2. Suggest that women love men as deeply as men love women;
3. Suggest that sometimes women suffer enormously, have their lives damaged, etc.
I’m sorry your experiences have been so horrible, to make you so bitter. Mine have been horrible too. And no, just for the record—some women behave honorably, with fairness and restraint. Sometimes women are the ones who are abandoned, humiliated, and financially ruined. Sometimes they do not have a group of bitchy, careless girlfriends to egg them on, or a brilliant lawyer, and sometimes movies don’t represent the reality of life. Sometimes women say, “He deserves the worst, but that’s not what the Lord is leading me toward, so I’m just going to pray for him.”
I know, this is inconceivable. I hope that someday your fury will subside, as mine did many years ago. Pace!
BTTT
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