[Little Pig]

You know I’m not talking about AA. I’m talking about the kinds of “all talk no action” social programs you always see from the government, where your problems are entirely the fault of someone or something else, so you’re not responsible. AA makes one admit that the problem is entirely one’s own fault, and that one must take responsibility for one’s own actions.

[raybbr]

You know I’m not talking about AA. I’m talking about the kinds of “all talk no action” social programs you always see from the government, where your problems are entirely the fault of someone or something else, so you’re not responsible. AA makes one admit that the problem is entirely one’s own fault, and that one must take responsibility for one’s own actions.

Okay, I wasn't sure how much you knew about AA. And, you're right AA is not touchy-feely. Although, over the past 22 years it's gotten pretty lame at some meetings. New comers are treated with kid gloves instead of telling them the truth.