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$13,050,826,460,886.97
nypost ^ | 060610 | michael tanner

Posted on 06/06/2010 2:33:02 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand

Go ahead, let it soak in: Thirteen trillion, fifty billion, eight hundred twenty-six million, four hundred sixty thousand, eight hundred eighty-six dollars . . . and ninety-seven cents.

Seen on the “debt clock” in Times Square, that number seems little more than an abstraction, something almost impossible to process. But think about it this way: If you earned one dollar every second, it would take you 416,000 years to earn enough money to pay it off. Or consider: Alex Rodriguez earned $33 million last year, making him the highest paid player in baseball. It would take nearly 400,000 Rodriguezes to earn that much money.

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Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo, the leading candidate to become New York’s next governor, has rejected a proposal by Lt. Gov. Richard Ravitch to borrow $6 billion to close the state’s budget gap. Perhaps at least some politicians are learning to live within their means.

Well, perhaps, but Cuomo isn't the governor of New York, so who gives a rip what he says he "rejects?" What about what our actual governor has actually rejected?

Why does he talk of Cuomo as if he's the governor and not bother to mention the battle that David Paterson has been doing with the corrupt legislation and all their union sponsors to balance the budget in NY state for almost two years now?

1 posted on 06/06/2010 2:33:03 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

What was the debt during Bush? $5 trillion?


2 posted on 06/06/2010 2:35:27 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Frantzie

2.9. it’s in the article, which was excerpted.


3 posted on 06/06/2010 2:36:21 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we shall overcome a generation of affirmative action.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“Bush made me do it!” - Barry Hussein Obama


4 posted on 06/06/2010 2:37:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("A Republic, If You Can Keep It" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: the invisib1e hand
With all due respect, Paterson's "battle" with the legislature has been about as convincing as Brer Rabbit's plea to not be thrown into the briar patch.


5 posted on 06/06/2010 2:37:41 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander

disagree.


6 posted on 06/06/2010 2:38:55 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we shall overcome a generation of affirmative action.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

As is your right. Doesn’t mean a hill of beans though, when he has, in fact, not done much more than make a lot of noise, before he succumbs to his inner liberal and goes along.


7 posted on 06/06/2010 2:40:30 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander
not done much more than make a lot of noise

He is the first and only governor I've heard do so. He is frequently opposed in court -- don't know how much more he can do than that.

8 posted on 06/06/2010 2:42:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we shall overcome a generation of affirmative action.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Anyone have a current GDP figure? Isn’t the debt getting terribly close to the GDP?


9 posted on 06/06/2010 2:46:05 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: the invisib1e hand; AuntB
It would take nearly 400,000 Rodriguezes to earn that much money.

I bet we have at LEAST that many here illegally,
and they don't make anywhere near that much money.

10 posted on 06/06/2010 2:47:28 PM PDT by Willie Green (Klaatu barada nikto)
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To: the invisib1e hand
So what? Obama has massively good intentions - he wants to be the Second Coming, heal the sick, give sight to the blind, and give everyone a rainbow-colored unicorn - do you really think that that makes him a better President than Bush - or any other President in recent history for that matter - who didn't have such good intentions?

Paterson is a weak, supercilious jackass, just like Obama, whose only real skill is talking himself up, and for that he doesn't deserve a whit of merit because, quite frankly, any half-wit can portray himself as being in possession of the half he's actually missing.

11 posted on 06/06/2010 2:47:51 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: the invisib1e hand

If that were miles that would be 35,367 trips from the Sun to Pluto.


12 posted on 06/06/2010 2:51:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I propose the debt clock be superimposed on all tv channels playing Obama speaking about anything.


13 posted on 06/06/2010 3:26:26 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: janereinheimer

GDP for 2010 will be somewhere north of $14T, so yes, the debt is growing perilously close to 100% of GDP—roughly 94%.

To take the household analogy, many people have mortgages in excess of their annual income. So per se, this level of debt isn’t unsustainable. If we added no more to it, we could steadily chip away at it and even retire it within a few decades very comfortably (after WWII total debt was about 120% of GDP and by 1980, we’d knocked that down to only 26%:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt).

But there’s 4 problems. First, when you add debt for state & local governments, that adds another 21% of GDP (http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/piigs-europe-debt-eurozone-greece-canada/6/4/2010/id/28598), bringing the total to 115% GDP.

Second, PRIVATE debt already is 113% of GDP, which effectively doubles the burden faced by Americans.

Third, we have a structural deficit that is adding to the public debt year after year rather than retiring any of it, so it will rise by about $9T within a decade.

Fourth, we have a pile of unfunded obligations for Medicare and SS equal to $109T in today’s dollars. Admittedly, these are FUTURE promises rather than past obligations, but to avert them entirely would entail MASSIVE cuts in Medicare and SS, which likely are politically impossible. So even if we have the stomach to cut this burden by 3/4 through cuts, that will still leave $27T to somehow bankroll, i.e., effectively tripling our current national debt. So even under the latter extremely optimistic assumption, our overall indebtedness exceeds 400% of GDP.

If you told a financial advisor you were planning to carry a debt equal to 4 times your annual income, s/he likely would counsel against this. It’s likewise hard to imagine any bank willing to keep lending to a family in this position. To take the analogy further, a mortgage at least has an asset backing it up. But the U.S. as a nation only has a net worth of $53T.

So we’re like a family with, say, $14K in income, a house worth $53K, current debts of $35K (with plans to increase this to about $44K over the next 10 years). We were planning a lavish vacation costing $107K, but have decided to tighten our belts to fit it into a $27K budget. Who would lend money to such a family to bankroll the latter?


14 posted on 06/06/2010 3:35:50 PM PDT by DrC
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To: the invisib1e hand

lol

That’s petty cash compared to the real debt that includes under funded future obligations with is something like 62 Trillion.


15 posted on 06/06/2010 3:41:44 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: DrC

DrC, if you have a ping list, please add me. That was an exceptional analysis that many of us simply cannot find from the “finest” in the MSM. Thank you! -Bill


16 posted on 06/06/2010 4:05:08 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (Rev. Wright said "G_d D_mn America!". B-HO replied, "I'll do my best.")
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To: the invisib1e hand

That is a number that I cannot even fathom.


17 posted on 06/06/2010 4:12:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: screaminsunshine
I propose the debt clock be superimposed on all tv channels playing Obama speaking about anything.

I like it. Why don't you suggest it to Fox and all the talkers via email!

18 posted on 06/08/2010 4:57:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we shall overcome a generation of affirmative action.)
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To: SandRat
If that were miles that would be 35,367 trips from the Sun to Pluto.


19 posted on 06/08/2010 5:00:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we shall overcome a generation of affirmative action.)
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To: Oceander
Paterson is a weak, supercilious jackass, just like Obama, whose only real skill is talking himself up, and for that he doesn't deserve a whit of merit because, quite frankly, any half-wit can portray himself as being in possession of the half he's actually missing.

Well, I hate to contradict presumed omniscience, but Paterson is a different sort of character all together.

20 posted on 06/08/2010 5:03:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we shall overcome a generation of affirmative action.)
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