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To: Zionist Conspirator

You cite your experiences. Please describe one.

Name some of the leaders past and or present who in your opinion are anti semitic. As far as members being thus really proves nothing as many people hate Jews and you will find them everywhere even in your local bowling leagues.

I am willing to be convinced. Nu, so be specific and convince me.

I did talk radio for ten years. I interviewed John McManus many times. He was the JBS head PR guy. I did hours of radio with him. He was then IMHO a straight shooting guy not at all bigoted against anyone. The JBS believes that the CFR and TLC have the real power in this world which transcends all gov’ts and they manipulate pols to globalize. That is their complete schtick or at least it was in the late 80s and early 90s when i was familiar with them. I think they get close to the truth and as a result get tared with the ‘anti-semitic’ smear to discredit them. The book, “Shadows of Power” was written by a Jew and presents the JBS theory. I forget the author’s name but you should be able to find it if you want.

I suspect that you like many others have believed what the MSM have said about the JBS. You think they are anti semitic but cannot cited specific examples.

As far as Ron Paul is concerned, I have lost all respect for him. Anybody who cannot see through arab terrorism against Israel in this flotilla deal is either ignorant or dislikes Jews. Dr. Paul is not ignorant so it must be the latter. It is ironic that Ludwig Von Mises was a Jew and it is the institute which bears his name that Paul and all the libertarians subscribe to. Also, a deceased gold bullion dealer, Burt Blumert, whom I knew personally was one of Paul’s best friends and a Jew. There are others as well.

Now, be a mensch, and indict the JBS with real examples of anti semitic sayings or writings if you can. I am waiting.

Hank


74 posted on 06/07/2010 6:50:36 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: rightwingjew
As far as Ron Paul is concerned, I have lost all respect for him. Anybody who cannot see through arab terrorism against Israel in this flotilla deal is either ignorant or dislikes Jews. Dr. Paul is not ignorant so it must be the latter. It is ironic that Ludwig Von Mises was a Jew and it is the institute which bears his name that Paul and all the libertarians subscribe to. Also, a deceased gold bullion dealer, Burt Blumert, whom I knew personally was one of Paul’s best friends and a Jew. There are others as well.

You and I have no quarrel then.

John McManus regularly gives talks on "the Jewish menace" to right wing Catholic groups. As a matter of fact, the leadership used these talks to blackmail him into falling into line at a certain point. I realize you will not take my word. I suggest you check into the blog of William Norman Grigg, a former JBS member and apologist, who knows this first hand.

I was a Society member during the Jimmy Carter years and at first I thought they were the greatest thing ever. Unfortunately, in addition to promoting anti-Semites like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford as heroes they also carried and sold the works of Nesta Webster (an anti-Semite whose work legally belonged to an out-and-out anti-Jewish outfit called the Britons; rather than use them the JBS sold illegal pirate copies) and Prince Michel Sturdza (an abominable Romanian Iron Guard apologist). I was also told by my coordinator that some prominent Society members did indeed believe the "conspiracy" was Jewish (he cited Medford Evans in particular, but though he was a member of the Citizens' Council I have never seen evidence that Evans was anti-Jewish or even anti-Israel). However, renowned Bircher John Schmitz was a friend and supporter of Willis Carto, and Liberty Lobby's attorney was a JBS Council member (Clyde Lewis or Clyde Watts; I forget which).

The JBS-affiliated magazine American Opinion, while adopting a black and white, us vs. them attitude with regard to most world conflicts, took an uncharacteristically (or was it?) "even-handed" position on Israel and the Arabs. This is also the magazine that published the articles on Ford and Lindbergh.

Many prominent anti-Semites and "identity" people got their start in the JBS: Lt. "Jack" Mohr, Willis Carto, even Ben Klaassen (atheist founder of the "church of the creator") spent time in the Society where they imbibed just enough "conspiracy theory" to come to the conclusion implied by the Society's anti-Semitic contacts. JBS Council member Charles "Chuck" Carlson maintains a web site, "We Hold These Truths," which is vehemently anti-Israel and has a section called "Pharisee Watch." G. Edward Griffin's web site once posted a letter by someone who wanted to know why he posted so much conspiracy theory on his web site but didn't attack Israel. Griffin replied, not that doing so would be wrong, but that doing so would "turn people off" and you got more people listening by not attacking Israel.

The reason I joined the JBS was a Jewish Bircher named Alan Stang. He is now a "Baptist preacher" and a lunatic.

I have corresponded with Jewish Birchers on this subject before. I know I will not be able to sway you. But I know what I know. You do not have to agree with me. But I am not making this stuff up. These were and have been my experiences of the JBS, which I regard as the "blue lodge" of the anti-Semitic movement (and yes, they are not "officially" anti-Semitic because if they were they wouldn't be the "blue lodge," would they)?

Oh, I neglected one other little bit of information. For a while some dissident Birchers had an organization called the Robert Welch Foundation (whose web site posted headlines like "thousands of queer Jews march in Jerusalem" while promoting homosexual anti-Semite Justin Raimondo). After corresponding with the site maintainer a couple of times he responded by threatening me with physical violence, which I regarded then and regard now as one of the most childishly immature things I have ever seen.

Your mileage may vary. This is mine.

76 posted on 06/07/2010 7:20:41 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vatiftach ha'aretz 'et-piyha vativla` 'otam ve'et-bateyhem; ve'et kol-ha'adam 'asher leQorach . . .)
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