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US considers sending carrier to Korea
Washington Post ^

Posted on 06/02/2010 1:14:44 PM PDT by jhpigott

U.S. defense officials say they may deploy the massive aircraft carrier USS George Washington off the Korean Peninsula in the Yellow Sea, where North Korea allegedly sank a South Korean warship.

The deployment would be a show of force by the U.S., which has vowed to protect South Korea and is seeking to blunt aggression from North Korea. An international investigation last month blamed North Korea for torpedoing the Cheonan warship in March, killing 46 sailors.

U.S. officials, who spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said Wednesday that a final decision on deployment of the nuclear-powered carrier was likely by the end of the week.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoasia; nk; norks; northkorea; prnk; shipmovement; usnavy; ussgeorgewashington
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To: jhpigott

I think this article is making a story out of nothing.

George Washington will be taking apart in a joint US/ROK naval excercise that was due to happen anyway this summer but has been brought forward to next week after the sinking of the Cheonan to send a message of support blah blah blah...

Its a symbolic show of force that will last a few days and get media attention but does nothing to actually punish North Korea for the sinking of the Cheonan.


21 posted on 06/02/2010 1:38:56 PM PDT by fenderfeeder
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To: magslinger

Right now, they don’t think they have to.

That will happen if and when the Obama Administration actually tries to do something.

You will see every country taking hostages. I bet they aren’t going to be nice to all of them, I wouldn’t be surprised to see (GASP) limbs tore off ect....

This is going to be nasty, because the US is the only one that really was enforcing the norms of civil discourse internationally among nations.

Lefties are going to get a hint at what the world would have been like without the US. That would have been a world of utter death and cruelty.


22 posted on 06/02/2010 1:44:10 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Rooivalk

If I remember correctly, the Chinese have some pretty good exocet knock offs. They are not exactly helpless.


23 posted on 06/02/2010 1:45:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: hennie pennie

It’s usually a democrat who start most of the wars anyway.


24 posted on 06/02/2010 1:48:41 PM PDT by b4its2late (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?)
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To: Rooivalk
And this will let China know that America can project power right under their noses and that they can do nothing but look on

There was a NavAir Pinglist ping not too many days ago, to a Chinese newspaper article (May 1 or thereabouts) in which Chinese topsiders delineated a Chinese-exclusive area of operations in WestPac. Might want to take a look at that. We could get a challenge, with the Chinese backing up their borrowed-knife puppets.

Did you see that article? It was the kind of stuff the Italian Fascists used to tell the British in the 30's, about the Med.

25 posted on 06/02/2010 1:48:56 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: dila813
The local town marshal has had too much to drink and is passed out in the corner.

And don't forget the Kobe beef.

26 posted on 06/02/2010 1:50:10 PM PDT by b4its2late (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?)
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To: magslinger
I thought NK was the reason for home porting a carrier in Yokosuka.

Not necessarily, it was more a general 'cold-war' thing. Back in the 70's the plan was to forward deploy two carriers - one to Japan and one to Greece - so you would always have one in the area and didn't have to deploy two from the States. At the time there were always two carriers in the far east and two in the Med. The Greek deployment never panned out, but the Japanese took the Asian one.

27 posted on 06/02/2010 1:51:05 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Flint

That is what I am worried about. Carriers make nice targets for submarines.


28 posted on 06/02/2010 1:51:40 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Vermont Lt
Far from an Exocet knock off. The anti-ship variant of the CSS5 is dubbed the carrier killer and has a 1,500 km range...


29 posted on 06/02/2010 1:52:51 PM PDT by fenderfeeder
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To: jhpigott

As a general rule, it is always a bad idea to brandish a weapon that you have no intention of using. Especially when the other guy knows you won’t use it.


30 posted on 06/02/2010 1:55:43 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: fenderfeeder

I could be wrong, but don’t those joint US/ROK naval exercises usually take place in the Sea of Japan?

The Yellow Sea is where all the post Korean War naval skirmishes have taken place between the ROK and NORKs


31 posted on 06/02/2010 1:57:35 PM PDT by jhpigott
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To: fenderfeeder

If China were to sink a carrier, could we cut off all trade with them, despite them screaming that we owe them money? Or would we just drop hundreds of tons of bombs on them?


32 posted on 06/02/2010 2:00:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I should have added a “sarc” tag to that. I was aware of most of that (the Greece part was news to me, thanks for posting it.) It did seem like NK was our main reason for being there when I served on the USS Midway in the late seventies. Google “Operation Paul Bunyan”.


33 posted on 06/02/2010 2:01:12 PM PDT by magslinger ("If I have money, I buy fishing gear. If I have money left over, I buy beer." - Hank Thoreau)
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To: jhpigott

George Washington was in the Yellow Sea last October training with the ROK navy :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnavynvns/4019412309/


34 posted on 06/02/2010 2:04:06 PM PDT by fenderfeeder
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To: Flint
"When is the NK Fruit Loop gonna take a torpedo shot at our carrier?"

Remember, carriers don't go anywhere. Carrier Strike Group (CSG-5, in this case) go places, and that Strike Group always contains at least one fast-attack sub. The rickety old 50's ERA NORK subs wouldn't get close enough to even see a carrier, let alone fire on one.

35 posted on 06/02/2010 2:09:10 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: wastedyears

Cut off all trade with the Chinese? Where would we get our replacement parts for our military equipment?


36 posted on 06/02/2010 2:09:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Flint; All
When is the NK Fruit Loop gonna take a torpedo shot at our carrier?

As soon as:

1) He receives the OK from China to do so

2) He realizes that Obama needs him to do so as a distraction, and hears it from Obama

3) He realizes that The Mouse That Roared scenario is his best bet, and that the US retaliatory strike would be followed by indefinite US financial aid to Pyongyang.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

37 posted on 06/02/2010 2:14:07 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Flint
I know what I am going to do only slightly more than half the time, you expect me to know what Mentally Ill is going to do?

My guess is any time, but he could have an outbreak of mental health and not do it.

38 posted on 06/02/2010 2:14:12 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!-Leonidas (300))
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To: dila813

I forgot about Obama. The Mohammedans already have about 350,000,000 hostages.


39 posted on 06/02/2010 2:16:31 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!-Leonidas (300))
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To: jhpigott
If this was the Bush era, two Battle Groups would have been deployed without announcement until they were on station.

Obama is a rookie and a p*ssy.

that said, it's a marginal increase in capability compared to what's already in the theater.

40 posted on 06/02/2010 2:17:17 PM PDT by Mariner (The first Presidential candidate to call for deportation, wins.)
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