The Republican Retreat on Health Care (You KNEW this was coming...)

Nat. Review ^ | 6/2/10 | Ed. Staff

[stephenjohnbanker]

” We continue electing RINOs on primaries because we think they have a better chance in beating the Dems and we end up with McCain, Graham, Snowe, etc. “

There are too many right here at FR who have bought into this. We lose either way with this scenario.

[BubbaBasher]

Anyone that thinks the pubbies are waiting to spring some clever trap is just kidding themselves. There is no historic basis for it.

[I am Richard Brandon]

Touché

[Jim Noble]

Until there are 218 Members of Congress who are neither Democrats nor Republicans, nothing will change.

[Buckeye McFrog]

although letting the Dems make an equally horrible mess out of those other 3 issues is probably not a bad political strategy. Certainly not good for the country though.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Until there are 218 Members of Congress who are neither Democrats nor Republicans, nothing will change.

First you’d have to know what is replacing them. It will certainly not serve us well to start electing people from the Best Party, Raving Monster Party, Cap’n Jack’s Pirate Party, and all those other silly protest parties that have sprung up in Europe. You’d just have 218 nutballs who couldn’t agree on anything.

[MollyKuehl]

There are too many right here at FR who have bought into this. We lose either way with this scenario.

What scenario when elections results prove it otherwise??? I am by far a dreamer, fooling myself into thinking that as conservatives, are better equipped in claiming our country back. NEWSFLASH: it can only be done by being active in our community, something which the left has recognized for decades and actively and successfully making it so. During last presidential elections I had so many Obama activists knocking at my door, trying to sell me the snake oil. Number of McCain activists? ZERO! We think that blogging, posting on forums, twitter, facebook or any other forms of social media is enough to acquire success and reclaim our nation. While we're here, warriors in our robes, the left continues to canvass our own neighborhoods. In the confines of our homes, while reading books, watching television, putting our kids to sleep, in boldness and confidence it is easy to say "Yes, I would die for the cause I believe in" but would we? People are so detached and uninvolved to devote 1 hr a day to making some calls on behalf of a conservative candidate or knocking on neighbors' door and talk to them. Yes, talking to your neighbors is activism. But when such a gung-ho FReeper claimed to be supporting DeVore for CA governor, it confirmed it to me once again.

I am so completely done in discussing the things we should do or can do over the internet. I simply have no interest in hearing this anymore. If anyone expects a Savior to come rescue the country remember this: while Christ sacrificed Himself for us, He still left it up to us to go to Him and accept Him as our Savior. WE HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVE!. Nothing is being handed out at random, not our spiritual salvation nor our nation's. People need to get off the computers, join a conservative group, a tea party group, volunteer as a poll worker, volunteer for the local conservative candidate, may he or she be running for senate or local school board. Everything starts locally, in real life. Away from this! Organizing For America and ACORN and SEIU and other leftist groups are kicking our asses because they are actually on OUR streets while we hold intellectual debates and preach to our own people.

Churchill's first address to the House was clear, where he advocated ACTION instead of words:"You ask, what is our policy? I say it is to wage war by land, sea, and air. War with all our might and with all the strength God has given us, and to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs - Victory in spite of all terrors - Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival."

WELCOME TO THE REVOLUTION!!! IT STARTS ON OUR STREETS!!!

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[stephenjohnbanker]

Organizing For America and ACORN and SEIU and other leftist groups are kicking our asses because they are actually on OUR streets while we hold intellectual debates and preach to our own people.

Churchill’s first address to the House was clear, where he advocated ACTION instead of words:”You ask, what is our policy? I say it is to wage war by land, sea, and air. War with all our might and with all the strength God has given us, and to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs - Victory in spite of all terrors - Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.”

WELCOME TO THE REVOLUTION!!! IT STARTS ON OUR STREETS!!!

READ IT PEOPLE!

[Fu-fu2]

Correct. Too many Republicans are part of the same corrupt system. They wanted to get their hands on the pot of money as bad as the Dems. We need to work in the primaries to get new people on the ballot for the November elections. That’s where the idealogical battle should be fought. Otherwise, in November we are put in the position of electing a RINO or a liberal Dem.

[mo]

none of us want to deal with the implications...

The Dem-Republican Good Cop-Bad Cop con routine is the longest running, most successful play of that con anywhere in the world. The Pubbies know that when they run Congress next time around, they get to play with the goodies. That “healthcare “ bill has enough in it to horse trade on K st for another generation.

What many miss...and fail to appreciate...is that a good deal of the Federal Power Grab..merely reflects the expanding “needs” of the Federal bureaucracy. Every 20 years (think immigration reform” 1986...and the run they had at it on 2006; instead they “got healthcare” this year) a host of GS-15’s tries to break into the SES pay grade. This requires a substantial expansion of their agency’s scope and power to justify another cadre of administrative leadership. “Immigration Reform” is the fastest route to a quantum increase in population and concurrent administrative opportunity for the Feds. This is THE primary engine driving Federal Expansion...and needs We the People to implement a governor on it.

The real game is DC versus Flyover Country. It does’nt come to an end until all in Flyover Country finally get it. IMHO, they are just starting to wake up

[BfloGuy]

If they beat the repeal drum everyday for 8 months it would get old and wouldn’t get coverage.

I tend to agree with you. Public sentiment's already on their side; this is not the time to start the campaign.

[freekitty]

Me too.

[Fu-fu2]

“The real game is DC versus Flyover Country. It does’nt come to an end until all in Flyover Country finally get it. IMHO, they are just starting to wake up”

I agree with your entire #50 post.