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China’s stance on North Korea could lead to war
The Times(UK) ^
| 05/31/10
| Bill Emmott
Posted on 05/30/2010 6:27:16 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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China is indeed setting itself up for a disastrous blowback. However, I suspect that China will keep the status quo and make marginal adjustment.
As long as we are just pleading, that will be the way. They only act when their stance will promt us to act to threaten them strategically. However, it may well not happen. We are all preoccupied with keeping our financial bubble intact than addressing strategic threat. More so than China.
In the end, it will only amplify post-Kim jong-il uncertainty. China owns this crisis.
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:27:50 PM PDT
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TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:31:02 PM PDT
by
Jet Jaguar
(*)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Wow, I had forgotten the Rangoon incident and
I remember when it happened.
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:35:16 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I've read that NK presents a huge problem for China in the form of the civilian population. If the regime collapses China will be faced with a flood of refugees that physically marginal, psychological basket cases.
China may figure a little war might reduce the size of the problem for them.
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:39:16 PM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Just gotten done watching the Merorial Day concert on PBS, and remembering one of my late uncles who was in Korea during the Korean conflict, and seeing a very touching tribute of two buddies who was in that war, I cannot help but think, with this year marking 60 years since the start of that war and with renewed worries about a possible flare up again with the two Koreas, reading this makes me think about those two buddies and my late uncle.
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:39:52 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
(I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Next month marks the 60th anniversary of the beginning of hostilities. Will there be a restart?
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:42:47 PM PDT
by
Past Your Eyes
(No matter where you go there are always more stupid people.)
To: tacticalogic
While I agree that refugees will escape and provide headaches with China, I think its impact is exaggerated by Chinese regime. N.E. China has over 100 million population. It won't crash the economy in that area, which China claims.
They are just more concerned with damage to their geopolitical calculus. If it benefits them geopolitically, they will waste no time to take refugees. It will make good PR, too. China use to support defeated Khmer Rouge to keep pressure on Viet Nam after their invasion led to disastrous defeat. If they supported genocidal Khmer Rouge for strategic reason, what not do the same for N. Korea?
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05/30/2010 6:48:12 PM PDT
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TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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posted on
05/30/2010 6:52:13 PM PDT
by
rdl6989
(January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Democrats always did start the biggest wars.
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05/30/2010 6:54:45 PM PDT
by
MaxMax
(Conservatism isn't a party)
To: TigerLikesRooster
War in Korea would be a political and economic headache the Chinese government wouldn't want to have. They would topple Kim and install a new mini-dictator first. He's only there in the first place because China allows it.
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posted on
05/30/2010 7:03:41 PM PDT
by
Genoa
(Luke 12:2)
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
05/30/2010 7:13:11 PM PDT
by
ErnstStavroBlofeld
( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Bold)
To: TigerLikesRooster
If China is smart, they are already quietly staging as much humanitarian relief supplies and food as they can near the Korean border, ready to flood the country when Kim assumes room temperature, and prevent a mass exodus of 22 Million starving NoKo refugees.
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05/30/2010 7:18:13 PM PDT
by
Bean Counter
(Stout hearts...)
To: Genoa
This is the classic case of doing nothing to avoid headache now, kicking a can down the road, whether it turns into a bigger problem or not.
That would give Chia Head a wrong message, making him push envelope ever further. Because of their lack of action, Chia Head is turning into a bigger and bigger headache. He is incrementally maneuvering himself into a position of greater leverage, even against China. Of course, Chia Head is dying and Chia hopes that this headache would end soon and they would have a free hand on shaping N. Korea's future heavily in their favor. They are saying to themselves, "OK. Wait a little longer. Another month or another year, and this will go away. Let's be a little more patient." However, Chia Head create real problem even before he dies. It also gives time to Chia Head to put measures in place for Chinese encroachment, creating a situation they cannot control, making their intervention extremely costly even though China can prevail in the end.
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05/30/2010 7:41:52 PM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
With Obama in the White House, China knows that there will be no penalties no matter how intransigent they are.
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posted on
05/30/2010 7:48:05 PM PDT
by
denydenydeny
(The welfare state turns us all into zoo animals, mouths open, waiting for the next feeding.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
As a start, couldn’t we at least have FAIR trade with Red China?
I’m so sick of kissing their butts.
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05/30/2010 8:05:46 PM PDT
by
Sun
(Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Per Jack Wheeler: But how can it be safe when the Koreas are about to wage war? The answer is, they are not. Did you see that report about how South Korea has "lost track" of the Nork subs, one of which sank the ROK navy ship Cheonan on March 26? That was a head fake. Soon enough, one of those Nork subs will suffer an unfortunate event and disappear into the briny deep. Quid pro quo, no one will talk about it, and the war prep and talk will be gone with the wind. Meanwhile, thousands of kids are out on the streets of Pyongyang and elsewhere in Norkland practicing for the Mass Games.
China does not want a war between the Koreas. So there won't be one. That's the bottom line behind the Nork bluster.
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05/30/2010 8:18:19 PM PDT
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Mybe not yet and maybe not over Korea, but certainly China is the best candidate to end up in a devastating nuclear war with the USA.
My guess is they will take Taiwan by force and God knows where that will escalate to.
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05/30/2010 8:19:57 PM PDT
by
Williams
(It's the policies, stupid)
To: tacticalogic
I've read that NK presents a huge problem for China in the form of the civilian population. If the regime collapses China will be faced with a flood of refugees that physically marginal, psychological basket cases.I think this is an excuse advanced by the left to explain away Chinese support for NK.
When you think about it, NK has 25 million people of which only a percentage are close enough to the Chinese border to present China with a potential refugee problem
If tens of millions can be fed in the aftermath of the Indian Ocean tsunami, China, a nation 1.25 billion or so can easily handle 5 million refugees.
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05/30/2010 8:52:41 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
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05/31/2010 1:35:38 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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