Answer: …this DOES NOT mean that the hospital is accommodating…abortions [Post #109]
#1 They are accommodating an abortionist, which = accommodating the abortion industry.
#2 We both know when a hospital extends privileges, there's a fair amount that goes with that...access to hospital computer systems; sometimes personnel; etc. ... they all carry on what they do in their offices on the go...which includes arranging for "procedures"
Which argument have I made on this thread that you disagree with?
That there's no accountability process re: abortionists under this hospital's privilege umbrella.
I have stated that the hospital MAY NOT be able to revoke privileges simply because he is an abortionist. That is a statement of FACT.
see articles below: P>Date: May 19, 2010:
* Source: Nun excommunicated, loses hospital post over decision on abortion
* Source: Hospital nun rebuked for allowing abortion in Phoenix
#1: As you read these articles, note that this woman wasn't just a nun but a hospital administrator [so I'm not referencing the "ex-communication" part]
Here's the article excerpts:
Catholic News Service:
PHOENIX (CNS) -- A nun who concurred in an ethics committee's decision to abort the child of a gravely ill woman at a Phoenix hospital was "automatically excommunicated by that action," according to Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted of Phoenix.
Mercy Sister Margaret Mary McBride also was reassigned from her position as vice president of mission integration at St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix after news surfaced about the abortion that took place late last year. The hospital did not say what her new job would be.
The patient, who has not been identified, was 11 weeks pregnant and suffering from pulmonary hypertension, a condition that the hospital said carried a near-certain risk of death for the mother if the pregnancy continued.
"If there had been a way to save the pregnancy and still prevent the death of the mother, we would have done it. We are convinced there was not," said a May 17 letter to Bishop Olmsted from top officials at Catholic Healthcare West, the San Francisco-based health system to which St. Joseph's belongs.
But the bishop said in a May 14 statement that "the direct killing of an unborn child is always immoral, no matter the circumstances, and it cannot be permitted in any institution that claims to be authentically Catholic."
"We always must remember that when a difficult medical situation involves a pregnant woman, there are two patients in need of treatment and care, not merely one," Bishop Olmsted said. "The unborn child's life is just as sacred as the mother's life, and neither life can be preferred over the other."
Sister Margaret, who has declined to comment on the controversy, was on an ethics committee that was called to decide whether doctors could perform an abortion to save the mother's life. Catholic institutions are guided in making such decisions by the "Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services."
USA Today/AP:
PHOENIX (AP) — A nun and administrator at a Catholic hospital in Phoenix has been reassigned and rebuked by the local bishop for agreeing that a severely ill woman needed an abortion to survive.
Sister Margaret McBride was on an ethics committee that included doctors that consulted with a young woman who was 11 weeks pregnant late last year, The Arizona Republic newspaper reported on its website Saturday. The woman was suffering from a life-threatening condition that likely would have caused her death if she hadn't had the abortion at St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center.
Hospital officials defended McBride's actions but confirmed that she has been reassigned from her job as vice president of mission integration at the hospital. They said in a statement that saving the mother required that the fetus be aborted.
"In this tragic case, the treatment necessary to save the mother's life required the termination of an 11-week pregnancy," hospital vice president Susan Pfister said in an e-mail to the newspaper. She said the facility owned by Catholic Healthcare West adheres to the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services but that the directives do not answer all questions.
Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted, head of the Phoenix Diocese, indicated in a statement that the Roman Catholic involved was "automatically excommunicated" because of the action. The Catholic Church allows the termination of a pregnancy only as a secondary effect of other treatments, such as radiation of a cancerous
I agree. What they ARE NOT accommodating is abortion.
#2 We both know when a hospital extends privileges, there's a fair amount that goes with that...access to hospital computer systems; sometimes personnel; etc. ... they all carry on what they do in their offices on the go...which includes arranging for "procedures"
Giving hospital privileges DOES NOT mean that an office is provided and there is NOTHING in the story to lead one to believe that hospital computers or personnel are facilitating abortions.
I asked:
Which argument have I made on this thread that you disagree with?
To which you responded:
That there's no accountability process re: abortionists under this hospital's privilege umbrella.
Where have I made this argument?
At NO TIME have I suggested that the abortionist should have hospital privileges. I have simply pointed out that revoking them MAY NOT be as simple as it appears and I have also stated that there is NOTHING to suggest that the hospital has been used for abortion. So, you statement is meaningless, though I will commend you for dropping your insinuation that I'm not pro-life.
#1: As you read these articles, note that this woman wasn't just a nun but a hospital administrator [so I'm not referencing the "ex-communication" part]
Firing a hospital administrator is totally different from removing a doctor's privileges.
Do you have ANYTHING that says that a Colorado hospital can remove privileges when no laws are broken or malpractice isn't involved.