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What Happened to Valor?
New York Times ^ | May 24, 2010 | KATHERINE ZOEPF

Posted on 05/30/2010 4:36:59 AM PDT by don-o

“I didn’t know anything about medals,” Peralta told me. But she said that the idea that her son would be remembered as a national hero slowly became a source of comfort to her. The Peralta family, which includes Rafael’s three siblings, moved to San Diego from Tijuana, Mexico, when Rafael was a teenager, and he joined the Marines the first moment he could legally do so, on the same morning he got his green card. Though the Peralta parents spoke little English and felt like foreigners in Southern California, Rafael “really loved this country” and loved being a Marine, Peralta told me. As the months after his death wore on, she began to look forward to the day when she would receive the Medal of Honor on his behalf.

But that day never came. Almost four years later, on Sept. 17, 2008, Peralta was summoned to the Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in San Diego, where Lieut. Gen. Richard F. Natonski informed her of the Pentagon’s decision: Rafael Peralta would not be awarded the Medal of Honor after all. Instead he would receive the Navy Cross, the second-highest American military decoration that can be awarded to a Marine.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
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I know - I know...New York Times. Pfiu.

But, I found this very interesting, informative and erll reported.

1 posted on 05/30/2010 4:36:59 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

well reported


2 posted on 05/30/2010 4:37:28 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: don-o

RIP proud warrior. Now the NY Slimes wants to equate every gang banging, dope smuggling, illegal wetback who ever snuck into this country with him. If only we’d let them all in our troubles would be over.....


3 posted on 05/30/2010 4:45:23 AM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: don-o

He was shot in the head by friendly fire. She should proudly accept the navy cross and spend a little time reading what other medal of honor winners did.

May God bless him for his service and her for the sacrifice.


4 posted on 05/30/2010 4:49:25 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: don-o
What Happened to Valor?

What happened to America?

5 posted on 05/30/2010 5:14:01 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: HospiceNurse

Did you actually read the article? There’s more there than his getting shot by friendly fire.


6 posted on 05/30/2010 5:23:02 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: HospiceNurse
I think it all depends on who gave the first account .. " .. he pulled the grehade under him .. "because THAT seems to be the deciding factor.

Did he take a grenade purposefully or not?

I think a mama's heart should be considered in all things military death.

Keep your mouth shut until a final decidion is made ... cite "an award" if need be.

7 posted on 05/30/2010 5:23:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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...I have an off topic question:...this man was ‘green card status’ when he enlisted...so by joining the Marines, does he get full citizenship status?...is military service a fast track to citizenship?...just wondering.


8 posted on 05/30/2010 5:40:12 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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A letter included with the pathologist’s report suggests that Peralta’s “scooping/grabbing” was more likely to have been a result of “involuntary muscle spasms” than of a conscious act of courage.

'Twas the hand of God.

Now is the time to read of Milton Olive.

THE MEN OF OLIVE COMPANY; FOUR SOLDIERS SURVIVED VIETNAM BECAUSE MILTON OLIVE DIDN'T

http://www.mishalov.com/Olive.html

9 posted on 05/30/2010 5:44:19 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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It’s a good question. I recall President Bush at a swearing in ceremony that involved military becoming citizens.


10 posted on 05/30/2010 5:45:32 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

http://www.mishalov.com/Olive.html

hot link


11 posted on 05/30/2010 5:47:35 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: don-o

A Navy Cross is no small thing.


12 posted on 05/30/2010 5:51:40 AM PDT by xone
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Indeed. Chesty Puller earned five of them along with an Army Distinguished Service Cross.


13 posted on 05/30/2010 6:04:15 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: don-o

I hope Rafael Peralta doesn’t have to wait 147 years to get HIS medal.


14 posted on 05/30/2010 9:12:56 AM PDT by Old Student
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“...I have an off topic question:...this man was ‘green card status’ when he enlisted...so by joining the Marines, does he get full citizenship status?...is military service a fast track to citizenship?...just wondering.”

Fast-track, yes, immediate full citizenship, no. Last I checked, it was 5 years, but that was decades ago, and things may have changed.


15 posted on 05/30/2010 9:15:05 AM PDT by Old Student
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...thanks Old Student!...I wonder what will happen if more and more foreign nationals join up...where will their loyalties lie?...France used to comtemplate this...that’s why the Foreign Legion was stationed outside France.


16 posted on 05/30/2010 9:49:03 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: A.A. Cunningham

As is the DSC. Not everything rises to the level of the MOH. To politicize it like would be possible under the current crop of clowns would be to trivialize it.


17 posted on 05/30/2010 9:59:57 AM PDT by xone
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I hope Rafael Peralta doesn’t have to wait 147 years to get HIS medal.

He already received it.

18 posted on 05/30/2010 10:01:35 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone

Who is politicizing?


19 posted on 05/30/2010 10:39:39 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: don-o
Who is politicizing?

Those who imply that the Navy Cross is somehow insufficient an award for Peralta's action. Anytime valorous actions are compared and equal outcomes don't occur, those questioners are politicizing the event. It is true that politics play a part in the awarding of valor medals, but that is the way it is. There is no matrix for assigning valor decorations of this rank.

Sadly, the politicizing continues.

rubitsky

20 posted on 05/30/2010 10:51:03 AM PDT by xone
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