Posted on 05/28/2010 8:48:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Earlier this week Ayaan Hirsi Ali was on Tavis Smiley’s PBS show to discuss her new book, Nomad: From Islam To America, A Personal Journey Through The Clash Of Civilizations. In a back and forth about Islamic extremists, Hirsi Ali mentioned how some Muslims believe that “killing other people is a great thing to do,” to which Smiley shot back that Christians are more violent, saying “Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is.”
The full quote from Smiley (transcript from Breitbart.tv):
“Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is – I could do this all day long. There are so many more examples of Christians – and I happen to be a Christian. That’s back to this notion of your idealizing Christianity in my mind, to my read. There are so many more examples, Ayaan, of Christians who do that than you could ever give me examples of Muslims who have done that inside this country, where you live and work.”
For some context and background on Smiley’s guest, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Somalia-born writer and filmmaker who was raised a strict Muslim. After surviving civil war, she earned a political science degree and became an outspoken critic of Islamist oppression. Hirsi Ali is now a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and has written several books, including The Caged Virgin, Infidel and Nomad.
Certainly there has been more violence by Christians in the United States because it is largely a Christian nation. But Smiley appears to be comparing apples to oranges. The fundamental jihad that’s lead to the recent car bomb attempt in Times Square appears to have been inspired by drone attacks in Pakistan. Post Office shootings are a tragedy of another color entirely.
To be fair, the conversation was very interesting, and went far deeper than the section excerpted below (the full segment can be viewed on the Tavis Smiley website.)
(h/t townhall.com)
WHAT IS JIHAD?
What is Jihad: The Arabic word Jihad is derived from the root word Jahada (struggle). Jihad has come to mean an offensive war to be waged by Muslims against all non-Muslims to convert them to Islam on the pain of death. Jihad is enjoined on all Muslims by the Quran.
Tabari IX:69 Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allahs helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.
This is the history of the Islamic Jihad from a neutral and factual viewpoint.
http://www.historyofjihad.org/mohammed.html
The Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)
The Jihad against Zoroastrian Persians of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)
The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubians - modern Sudanese (650)
The Jihad against pagan Berbers - North Africans (650 to 700)
The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)
The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)
The Jihad against Franks - modern French (720 to 732)
The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)
The Jihad against Chinese (751)
The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)
The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)
The Crusade against Jihad (1096 1291 ongoing)
The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)
The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)
The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)
The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)
The Jihad against Rumania (1350 to 1699)
The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)
The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)
The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)
The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)
The Jihad against Albania (1332 - 1853)
The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)
The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)
The Jihad against Austrians (1683)
Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)
The Jihad against Israelis (1948 2004 ongoing)
The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)
The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)
The Jihad against the Germans (1945 onwards)
The Jihad against the Indians (1947 onwards)
The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)
The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Nigerians (1965 onwards)
The Jihad against Canadians (2001 onwards)
The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Australia (2002 onwards)
The Global Jihad today (2001 ongoing)
The War on Terror against Jihad today (2001
Little lnown fact: Klebold and Harris were shouting “Glory to Jesus Christ in the highest” at Columbine. Bet you didn’t know.
How does a human being reach adulthood with a skull stuffed full of *that much* stupid?
Smiley is a racist moron.
I can see the relationship Jihad might have with
the Armor of God... except that Christians don’t
murder a person if they refuse to convert.
The inquisition was political jihad perpetrated
by evil people who were certainly NOT Christian.
When Christians use the battle or war metaphor ( as in St. Paul’s Armour of God), they do not refer to actual physical combat where people are really killed.
They’re talking about spiritual struggle (a war between good and evil). The struggle or battle to be perfected morally, to be conformed to the character of Jesus Christ.
That’s what St. Paul meant when he said : “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” ( Ephesians 6:12)
Somehow, I don’t think that’s what the meaning of Jihad is about as espoused by Muhammad and the Koran.
He is employed by PBS which means we pay him.
Hey tavis, your fired.
And get a real name.
AGREE 100%...!
They want to beleive Muslims cause they hate Christians.
You rand the bell Smiley - cite the dates and locations. Oh you can’t.. then SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!
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