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To: Bigun
IMHO Hamilton was already thinking outside bounds of the Constitution before there was one! He and some others never wanted a republic in the first place and never stopped in their efforts to undermine that result.

IMO Hamilton understood the Constitution probably better than anyone. He knew it was a Trojan Horse--if you happened to be under the misguided notion that the Constitution contained "few and defined" powers. He knew it would provide the massive centralization of power he favored. He knew it would obliterate the state governments' power (he despised them anyway.) In the first years under the system, he ran circles around Madison and Jefferson. They look like utter fools next to Hamilton. For all the talk of Madison and Jefferson, it's Hamilton who truly left his mark on this nation. Madison and Jefferson are monuments to what never was.

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7 posted on 05/27/2010 8:35:27 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Huck
IMO Hamilton understood the Constitution probably better than anyone. He knew it was a Trojan Horse--if you happened to be under the misguided notion that the Constitution contained "few and defined" powers. He knew it would provide the massive centralization of power he favored. He knew it would obliterate the state governments' power (he despised them anyway.) In the first years under the system, he ran circles around Madison and Jefferson. They look like utter fools next to Hamilton. For all the talk of Madison and Jefferson, it's Hamilton who truly left his mark on this nation. Madison and Jefferson are monuments to what never was.

I don't disagree with you at all but that does not change the intent of the founders one whit nor does it change the plain words written in the Constitution. Hamilton, Marshal and their friends accomplished a lot to be sure but they never lived to see their dream to fruition! That only came after Lincoln and his war ripped the country apart and reformed it to their liking. .

12 posted on 05/27/2010 8:51:38 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Huck
For all the talk of Madison and Jefferson, it's Hamilton who truly left his mark on this nation.

I would recommend Alexander Hamilton: A Biography, by Forrest McDonald. His theme is Hamilton the Lawgiver.

18 posted on 05/27/2010 9:20:09 AM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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