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I Don't Care if She's Winning, Carly Must Explain This
Red County ^ | 5-25-2010 | Chip Hanlon

Posted on 05/25/2010 9:09:45 PM PDT by excopconservative

So, in 2000, a Prop 26 was on the ballot. What did it do? It was an attempt by Prop 13 opponents to undermine that 2/3 majority protection-- in the name of the children, of course! Well, voters solidly rejected this end-run on Prop 13, but one GOP Senate candidate supported it whole-heartedly: Carly Fiorina.

Forget what I wrote on Friday. The silver lining about Tom Campbell's apparent collapse in the polls is this: conservatives may not have to make a "who do I think can win?' judgement between Fiorina and DeVore

(Excerpt) Read more at redcounty.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: boxer; casenate; devore; fiorina; gop; gopmajority; senate
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Opposing Prop 13 or trying to diminish it is the end of a CA politician.
1 posted on 05/25/2010 9:09:46 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: excopconservative

She did explain it, with a stream of consciousness, nonsensical filibuster.


2 posted on 05/25/2010 9:11:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: excopconservative

I cannot stand her as a politician. I hate going into thread after thread and seeing that damned movie of her at the top...talk about irritating.


3 posted on 05/25/2010 9:21:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: excopconservative

She was young and foolish — now she is TEN years older and wiser.

Let he/she who never ever made a mistake in their life throw the first stone...

She is the only one who has any chance of beating Boxer — which is why pro-life organizations and Sarah Palin endorsed her.


4 posted on 05/25/2010 9:28:28 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: excopconservative
In an attempt to prevent duplication and the number of threads we have to pull, we are asking that no one alter published titles. Just use the complete original published title.

The title you created "Carly Must Explain This" was only half the original title.

The published title reads "I Don't Care if She's Winning, Carly Must Explain This". This time we will edit in the rest of the title.

5 posted on 05/25/2010 9:31:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: SmartInsight

First, I’ll admit I don’t know much about her or the race.

But, with the hell we have been suffering because of RINO’s, aren’t you a bit concerned that it may not matter if she beats Boxer if she is a RINO that will continue Boxer’s voting record?


6 posted on 05/25/2010 9:38:11 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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Noted. Thanks.


7 posted on 05/25/2010 9:38:29 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; SmartInsight
You were saying ...

But, with the hell we have been suffering because of RINO’s, aren’t you a bit concerned that it may not matter if she beats Boxer if she is a RINO that will continue Boxer’s voting record?

It would be very difficult for a GOP candidate to continue Boxer's voting record ... :-)

Oh... and I don't think the NRA would endorse Boxer, but they did Carly Fiorina. And also, I don't believe that the prolife groups in California would endorse Boxer, but they did Carly Fiorina.

See the following chart for some issues and the comparison between candidates.


8 posted on 05/25/2010 9:43:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SmartInsight

Oh really? I don't think she stands a chance against ANY Dem candidate.

Why?

Vote DeVore - for the future! (It may not be this election cycle it pays off, but still, it is progress towards a more conservative California.....)

9 posted on 05/25/2010 9:44:19 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: excopconservative

If I lived in CA and could vote for her, I would. On the basis of her fiscal conservatism, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, and her stands for energy independence and against an open border.

That’s not good enough for many of you but it would be plenty good enough for me. I don’t vote on the basis of single issues or minor social issue stances.

I do vote for people who can win against one of the lousiest leftist ever to sit in the Senate, and Carly can do that.

No Apologies.


10 posted on 05/25/2010 9:47:36 PM PDT by bigbob
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If I lived in CA and could vote for her, I would. On the basis of her fiscal conservatism, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, and her stands for energy independence and against an open border.

That's the way Carly's mouth is moving today - and not in line with her actions in the past.

Fiorina is the Mitt Romney of California.

11 posted on 05/25/2010 9:49:48 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: bigbob
You were saying ...

That’s not good enough for many of you but it would be plenty good enough for me. I don’t vote on the basis of single issues or minor social issue stances.

I do vote for people who can win against one of the lousiest leftist ever to sit in the Senate, and Carly can do that.

No Apologies.

Here is something that shows the big differences between Boxer and Fiorina, and then for comparison, Palin and my US Senator (in Oklahoma) Jame Inhofe is shown. Both of them endorse Carly Fiorina.

This is from OnTheIssues.com website ...

They collect information from various candidates and put it in a list of information on the webpage regarding the candidate and then also produce a graphic image of the overall position of the candidate.



Barbara Boxer


Carly Fiorina


Tom Campbell




Note that one reason for knocking off Barbara Boxer, is that it's mighty difficult to "be like Barbara Boxer" and a hard-left politician.... I don't think a GOP Candidate could even run in the GOP Senate Primary and be as hard left as Barbara Boxer..., even if it "is California" ... :-)

For comparison's sake, here is a couple of others ...


Sarah Palin


Senator James Inhofe


12 posted on 05/25/2010 9:51:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SmartInsight
She was young and foolish — now she is TEN years older and wiser.

Yes but you have to understand there are many here who think their excrement doesn't stink and they are perfect and have been in every way their whole lives...so there is no allowance for error...(sarc.)

13 posted on 05/25/2010 9:55:27 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: SmartInsight

If they elect a candidate that can win over Boxer, though she is only moderately to the right of Boxer, it is better than offering up a hard right candidate that prob will not win.


14 posted on 05/25/2010 9:56:20 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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If they elect a candidate that can win over Boxer, though she is only moderately to the right of Boxer, it is better than offering up a hard right candidate that prob will not win.

Bingo we have a winner. Except I'd say "can't win" instead of probably will not...

15 posted on 05/25/2010 9:58:15 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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“If they elect a candidate that can win over Boxer, though she is only moderately to the right of Boxer, it is better than offering up a hard right candidate that prob will not win.”

Exactly — the objective should be to take Congress from the Democrats. Any one Republican could be the one to help the Republicans achieve that. This election isn’t about just one candidate, but about Republicans taking over Congress.

As I heard from someone, focus on achieving a Republican majority first, then when you have 65 Republican Senators, pick off the 5 RINOs, but first things first.

What good is nominating the most conservative candidate, if that will just ensure a continued Democrat majority?


16 posted on 05/25/2010 10:03:29 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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She was young and foolish — now she is TEN years older and wiser
Let he/she who never ever made a mistake in their life throw the first stone...
- - - — - - - — - -
A mistake is something you admit to, like.. “I used to be a liberal, but now I’ve seen the light and the reasons I changed are.....” Carly is still trying to justify her support of this end run around Prop 13 by saying it was “for the children”. Sounds like a democrat.

And, she was not young ten years ago.


17 posted on 05/25/2010 10:05:55 PM PDT by excopconservative
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“it is progress towards a more conservative California.....)”

How is re-electing Boxer progress towards “a more conservative California”?

Count how many Republicans hold state wide offices and what is the Dem majority in the CA Legislature?


18 posted on 05/25/2010 10:07:14 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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How is re-electing Boxer progress towards “a more conservative California”?

Because even if Fiorina wins the primary, Boxer will beat Fiorina like a rented mule.

19 posted on 05/25/2010 10:09:46 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: excopconservative

20 posted on 05/25/2010 10:10:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (There is no right to do wrong.)
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