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Britain bans doctor who linked autism to vaccine
Associated Press ^ | May 24,2010 | MARIA CHENG

Posted on 05/24/2010 8:44:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

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To: savagesusie

LOL...glad you spent time finding a study that was retracted. For future reference, Fraudfield is the one who used the monkeys as guinea pigs for his bogus research. What a hero.


201 posted on 06/04/2010 6:51:43 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

Funny that everything that finds a link between injecting known toxins into little babies will cause neurological damage is labeled fraudulent!!!!!

HA HA HA.

LOGIC out the window for big pharma profits. Dr. Wakefield is a martyr and so was Tailgunner Joe! Davids against Goliaths— and you don’t even question the giants’ claims—you accept them as truth.

You are very naive and indoctrinated. (”Unplug the bananas from your ears”)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDDBZuheQxs&feature=related


202 posted on 06/04/2010 10:17:08 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: 10Ring
You are claiming that The Fugitive situation COULD NOT happen....I say IT DID HAPPEN....and it happened to Dr. Wakefield.

Your “proof” was paid for by a huge corporations who had billions of dollars at their disposal. How could a single man fight that!!!!!!and their forged studies and bought off scientists. NO HOCKEY STICKS THERE<<<<NO!!!!! I believe Wakefield.

How did Tailgunner Joe fight all the commies that were embedded in the government and media????He wasn’t able to rise above public perception created by the misinformation and lies put in the newspapers to vilify, marginalize and destroy him....(Alinsky tactics, yes????) They did destroy him, his name and reputation...all because he was a patriot and loved (and fought) for his country and pointed out the communists who were infiltrating at all levels and undermining policies in China, Yugoslavia,etc. Joseph McCarthy was correct in everything that he exposed, yet he was hailed as a liar and a fraud. Proof exists now that the media and govt. officials lied and covered up the truth. (what a foreign concept there!!!!! Government lie and forge documents???????)

You are taking hearsay to condemn a man you have no right to condemn! Were you in court? Did you see the documents? Who signed them?????...did you examine any bank accounts of people who testified? or whatever. You are taking the word of people who had access to billions of dollars against one doctor who was just doing a study on a few little kids.

Something smells really fishy and it ain’t Wakefield’s study. I read it. It was methodically done and very sound and only alleged that there MAY be a connection between the bowel syndrome and vaccination since all the children had severe diarrhea after getting vaccinated. WHAT IN THE HELL ARE PHARMACEUTICAL companies soooooo afraid of??????????? Oh, yes, they read Kuhn.

203 posted on 06/04/2010 10:51:27 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
Funny that everything that finds a link between injecting known toxins into little babies will cause neurological damage is labeled fraudulent!!!!!

We are still waiting for you to provide one study showing even a slight correlation.

HA HA HA.

Yeah, it's real friggin' funny when kids get measles and die or suffer because of fraud.

LOGIC out the window for big pharma profits

But quite acceptable for Wakefield to pull in a cool $Million from the Legal Aid Society for the poor. It was for the children!

Dr. Wakefield is a martyr and so was Tailgunner Joe! Davids against Goliaths— and you don’t even question the giants’ claims—you accept them as truth

I'm guessing, here, but perhaps you go on-and-on about Joe McCarthy because he died of acute hepatitis. Some have questioned the truth there and concluded he died of alcoholism. Joe was a Marine and a Patriot, which is much more than I can say for Fraudfield.

You are very naive and indoctrinated. (”Unplug the bananas from your ears”)

Hmmmm....watch susie's videos or stuff bananas in my ears...pretty tough decision, but I'll go with the bananas.

204 posted on 06/04/2010 11:07:25 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: 10Ring

Read front of Drudge TODAY (about the swine flu “epidemic” (HA HA HA) wonder if you had them inject MORE unneeded toxins into your sickly body....MORE LIES AND FRAUD__ooooo, not by Wakefield, either, surprise, surprise!!!!!!!!

“The second report, a joint investigation by the BMJ and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, which is based in London, criticized 2004 guidelines the WHO developed based in part on the advice of three experts who received consulting fees from the two leading manufacturers of antiviral drugs used against the virus, Roche and GlaxoSmithKline.

“We are left wondering whether major public health organizations are able to effectively manage the conflicts of interest that are inherent in medical science,” the report states.”

And you allow big pharma to poison kids in the “name” of billions of dollars in profit?????They inject tons of toxins into the children of our nation, WE ARE the one with the most vaccinations and the one with the HIGHEST number of neurological damaged children in the history of this nation and OH NO! Let’s not see the elephant in the room!!!!!!!!!

Better read the UNDERGROUND HISTORY OF AMERICAN EDUCATION because with your (non) logic, you have to be a product of the public school system and better correct your pathetic thinking pattern!


205 posted on 06/04/2010 3:15:56 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: 10Ring

BTW, Wakefield advised getting the MMR shots and had his kids vaccinated. He wanted the shots to be separated like they had been for decades prior to the combination shots which correlated with the increase in Autism and other neurological damage showing up exponentially in the children.

You are lying about Wakefield. I would sue your A$$ if I was him. The big pharma refused to separate the shots although there was an increasing demand for them.....why? Profits.

You put children at a higher risk by giving 3 times the amt of toxins for their little bodies to handle and you think there would be no damage? You’re a useful idiot for the pharma whores and killers.


206 posted on 06/04/2010 3:25:08 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
Did you ever get your backup for the increased mercury in the shots?

Or are you running away again? LOL!

207 posted on 06/04/2010 3:28:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: savagesusie
Read front of Drudge TODAY (about the swine flu “epidemic” (HA HA HA)

Front of Drudge? As opposed to the back? If you ever find a study supporting your claims (that hasn't been retracted), you can post it here. You don't have any problem posting links to your videos. I'm sure even public school graduates can handle a copy/paste of the link (to a study...ok..not a video or some article from VaccineTruthTODAY!!!!!).

208 posted on 06/04/2010 4:11:54 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Not yet, but will soon....I had watched those videos so many times to see if I could spot some fraud. It was hard to listen to them since they describe such evil on the part of big pharma and government and such a destruction of human life....makes me very sad to see those thousands of damaged children when Autism was so rare before the 80’s and the massive increase in the vaccination program.

While you are waiting....did you catch drudge TODAY and the corruption of WHO and their fraud perpetuated on the world...with their invented “pandemic”.

“....based in part on the advice of three experts who received consulting fees from the two leading manufacturers of antiviral drugs used against the virus, Roche and GlaxoSmithKline.

“We are left wondering whether major public health organizations are able to effectively manage the conflicts of interest that are inherent in medical science,” the report states. “

AND you think there was NO conflicts of interest in the case against Wakefield when he, himself, advised people to get the MMR in separate shots....so the toxins are not all concentrated on the same day. I will side with the logic of Wakefield every time.

Do you really think infants with no infected mother need Hep B shots????? 3 DOSES!!!!! OF TOXIC material in a 8 pound HEALTHY (at least for a few hours) body????? Are you really surprised that my children did not die because they managed adulthood without at least 20 EXTRA shots that are now recommended for children before the age of 5.


209 posted on 06/04/2010 4:31:05 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: 10Ring
(that hasn't been retracted),

You mean articles that have been Alinskyited by the big pharma companies. Kind of like zero sending his goons to destroy Beck and his advertisers!!! Can't have the TRUTH look legitimate can we.

Actually, Wakefield REFUSED to retract his study--that is why he had to be destroyed. I believe it is a legitimate study. YOU prove to me that his study was false and don't use hearsay which you seem to think means FACT.

You make claims but you just quote big pharma goons who make billions off of their toxic vaccines that they are putting into tiny bodies at a rate never seen since Hitler's Germany (or maybe, Margarat Sanger was out there sterilizing thousands, but then I regress)....Autism rates skyrocketed when vaccinations skyrocketed. ELEPHANT in the room, huh???? Common sense, HUH??????

210 posted on 06/04/2010 4:43:36 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
You are lying about Wakefield. I would sue your A$$ if I was him.

Fraudfield already tried the suing bit...and he lost. But, I'm glad you're showing your true colors here.

The big pharma refused to separate the shots although there was an increasing demand for them.....why? Profits.

When the vaccines are separated that means 6 doses, instead of 2. Gee, I wonder whether 6 would be more profitable than 2.

You put children at a higher risk by giving 3 times the amt of toxins for their little bodies to handle and you think there would be no damage? You’re a useful idiot for the pharma whores and killers.

Are you worried about losing your award?

211 posted on 06/04/2010 4:44:05 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: savagesusie
I believe it is a legitimate study.

Was it the huge size of the sample he used?

212 posted on 06/04/2010 4:46:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

He never hid the size. He criticized it.


213 posted on 06/04/2010 4:54:19 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
but then I regress

I know...why do you keep doing that? Just post a valid study and you will stop regressing.

214 posted on 06/04/2010 4:54:29 PM PDT by 10Ring
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To: savagesusie
He never hid the size.

Does the size make the study more or less believable?

He criticized it.

He criticized the size of his own study? LOL!

215 posted on 06/04/2010 4:56:32 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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If I remember right he just recommended MORE STUDIES!!!! because he saw a POSSIBLE connection to vaccination.

WHAT IS SO EVIL ABOUT THAT??? Why would that not be a legitimate result of a study given to children who were just vaccinated and had severe diarrhea.

They called Wakefield because he was a bowel specialist. He did various studies which verified vaccine material in the intestine...or something like that. Go to the source and don’t go by hearsay! That is my point. Read his study. I see no fraud, he refused to recant his findings because it was that truth. He was vilified for not retracting it...the other doctors were frightened, retracted and were left alone to practice without govt. interference. Bet you don’t know their names. Wakefield, who came from a brilliant family, was destroyed.

Government and Corporations are lying for profits...we are seeing it non stop and to think that you expect me to read an FDA study and think it is legit is ridiculous! Government agencies are so corrupt, it is not even worth talking about.


216 posted on 06/04/2010 5:06:09 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
If I remember right he just recommended MORE STUDIES!!!!

Like the study from Finland that followed 1.8 million children for 14 years?

Is that study more believable than one that only followed 12 kids, for a few weeks?

I see no fraud

Yeah, he fooled some people who knew what they were doing. And a lot more people like you.

217 posted on 06/04/2010 5:10:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 10Ring

A valid study? On the FDA site? Ohhhhh, how about CDC??????? FDA is truthful??? Good pet food? How about baby formula? Where do you think I should go? To Merck’s site????No scandals there???? Wouldn’t those sites just be propaganda for marketing their products—calming the fears of the poor masses? Would they really say they are poisoning our children, even if they truly are? Wouldn’t government agencies be compromised by the lobbyists???? Who do you think feeds billions into government agencies’ pockets??? (Didn’t you read the article on Drudge’s “front” page? ..about the WHO organization spouting propaganda paid for by pharmaceutical companies??????to (gasp) make a profit!)

What about Wikipedia????? Wow! There’s a great site! Just WHOSE study would you trust?

You think “my sites” are frauds when they have NO billion dollar sponsors????????

I think government and big corporation sites are frauds. So, tell me, WHO do you believe? I believe Phyllis Schlafley to be truthful—read how CDC pays states for vaccination rates—she cites government and vaccine fraud in the following.....so is Wakefield the evil one???? When he refused to retract his peer reviewed article because he said it was not fraudulent? What about the “hockey stick” in CLIMATEGATE? No FRAUD committed by government?????? and scientists? Where is the condemnation for THOSE scientists?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Family/vaccinations_killing_children.htm


218 posted on 06/04/2010 5:44:23 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Toddsterpatriot

But what did he accomplish by “fooling” me? All he was saying was that there needed to be more investigation. That was the extent of his study. I believed that WAY before his study.

He recommended vaccinations in single doses separated over time. That sounded so sensible to me as a mother. I just saw his great concern for those extremely sick children. I don’t even think all of them became Autistic either so I don’t know why the Pharmaceutical companies were all up in arms. (I do understand that if vaccinations are tied to Autism, they would be destroyed).

There were so many more fraudulent things happening in their companies and in government, and with peer reviewed studies, where they were funding to get certain results and throwing out studies that didn’t get to their desired result. They do that all the time...I read about it every year! They try to get things on the market fast so they fake studies.(Kindof like the decades of Climategate and all their “peer-reviewed” studies).

Who can you believe anymore????? I don’t think a darn person—but certainly NOT GOVERNMENT and CORPORATIONS!!! THEY are not moral entities....I retreat to common sense and Natural Law and Wakefield did not make any earth-shattering claims so I believe him also.


219 posted on 06/04/2010 6:01:24 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What did the Finnish study prove????

Did Finnish children get Hep B shots at one day old? (probably not) 3 doses? on top of other vaccinations?

Do Finnish children get massive shots in one day? or do they spread them out. That study could mean nothing==it could be comparing apples to oranges...if they did not receive the same shots at the same ages.

I know that other countries do not vaccinate as much as the US. Can toxins accumulate? Wouldn’t number of vaccinations be relevant in a study? Especially toxins injected in the earliest stages of life?

Did those pregnant Finnish women get a flu vaccine before the child was born?

I hear that our nation is the most aggressive with vaccines. We also have the highest rates of neurological diseases in children which is a shocking number compared with our children in the 70’s and 80’s.

Did Finnish get separated doses of MMR? Different batches of vaccines can differ from one another also as do by different manufacturerers. They can have different adjuvants in them and other ingredience AND it has happened that vaccines can be contaminated.

I would really like to know the details of the study. Without knowing the details, it means absolutely nothing.


220 posted on 06/04/2010 6:54:03 PM PDT by savagesusie
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