Assisted suicide is not the answer for the terminally ill

The Oakland Press ^ | 5/21/10 | Rubel Shelly

[wagglebee]

Plenty of deathbots are also truthers.

[metmom]

Let me guess. You’re pro killing off the old and infirm, too.

[metmom]

Mercy killings are also a human tradition.

Child sacrifice is a human tradition too. It's still murder.

Immoral is immoral, no matter how long it's been practiced.

It doesn't stop being immoral after a certain number of years pass.

[metmom]

I don’t know. WHat do you call someone who is willing and eager to kill off others?

Mercenary?

Hit man?

Followers of Baal?

[trisham]

Baal-bot?

[wagglebee]

I’m fairly certain that slavery is a human tradition as well.

[BykrBayb]

I don’t care which of the patients you are, you would both get the same level of care from me regardless of what color you are, how much money you made in your life, which god you worshipped or didn’t worship, or which political party you were in, whether you had insurance or whether you were receiving care on the taxpayers dime or whether you were a US citizen or not because all life is equally sacred, right?

So you wouldn't discriminate against any of your patients based on those criteria? What about their disabilities, mental capacity, emotional status, etc? How safe would a patient with a severe brain injury be on your shift? Would an elderly woman with Alzheimer's Disease stand a chance around you? How about a man with advanced Parkinson's Disease? Is anyone safe around you?

[RC one]

sure and you can agree that there are times when running IV fluids simply hastens death and/or necessitate extraordinary measures and are, therefore, contraindicated.

[RC one]

I have only one standard of care and it's high.

How safe would a patient with a severe brain injury be on your shift?

you would be safe, don't worry

[RC one]

I’m not the one claiming that withholding care is murder. I’m not the one arguing about some “culture of death”.

[BykrBayb]

Your comment makes it obvious how little respect you have for your patients, especially the ones with brain injuries. Do you make those insulting comments in their presence? Do you try to keep them from hearing you talk about killing them, or do you just blurt it out right in front of them?

[Dante3]

I agree.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

there are times when running IV fluids simply hastens death and/or necessitate extraordinary measures and are, therefore, contraindicated.

Yes, but these times are the exceptions, not the rule.

In palliative and hospice care, many patients die by withdrawal of hydration that are still able to assimilate IV fluids. It is a terribly common form of euthanasia that is becoming so common as to be routine.

Abortions are down to about 1.2 million per year. But euthanasia by withdrawal of hydration and terminal sedation is already happening in the hundreds of thousands per year, and is going to explode under ObamaCare.

Does that not trouble you?

[floriduh voter]

If human beings are disposable commodities, there's a giant oil leak north of here... if we are going back to the stone ages, instead of calling it mercy, maybe human sacrifices to the earth would be the correct term (sarcasm tag). The less meaning life has, the further back in time we drift as people.

Death cultists are the new neanderthals.

[floriduh voter]

Conception to natural death. This doesn’t necessarily mean millions of dollars change hands! The money argument is simply a red herring - the fog of war between the death cultists and the actual faith based people.

[floriduh voter]

Additionally, even atheists know what a murder is. Terri Schiavo had atheists rooting for her. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them found Christ while they were at the Vigil.

[BykrBayb]

You still haven't answered my question. What (if anything) sets you apart from the person whose statement I copied and pasted into post #54? Is there anything about that statement that you disagree with?

[gracie1]

Thank you for your reasoned reply. It is good to see someone responding without resorting to calling everyone nazis, without trying to put words in mouths to the effect that we want to just kill people who are worthless.

For the record I would like to state that I am against active euthanasia. Every patient that died in my care under orders for “comfort care” the decision was made by the family, in fact many times requested that their loved ones be made as comfortable as possible under the circumstances. Whatever request they made for comfort be it medication, food or water, whatever, I was glad to do it.

Now as far as your question, the family in discussion would have liked to take their sister home and care for her at home, that had taken care of a family member at home before and were able to do so. The sticky wicket was the dialysis. No outpatient clinic will give a chair to a vegetative patient. Period. There is too much competition. Too many patients that are waiting for kidneys, functioning as normal as possible and not enough slots. There was simply no reasonable alternative. Plus the family was against placement farther than 1 hour drive.

[gracie1]

I agree with this statement. It makes a big difference. You are absolutely on target.

[dsc]

“Is anyone safe around you?”

No. Any suitable expression of the horror and disgust this alleged person’s remarks arouse would see me banned from this site.

He’s a monster. A moral leper. A serial murderer.