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Calderon blames U.S. guns for violence
Washington Times ^ | May 21, 2010 | Kara Rowland

Posted on 05/21/2010 8:00:39 PM PDT by neverdem

Mexican President Felipe Calderon called on Congress on Thursday to reinstate a federal ban on assault weapons that he said are ending up in the hands of violent drug cartels south of the border, using a highly contentious estimate of U.S. guns seized in Mexico when addressing Capitol Hill lawmakers.

Mr. Calderone said he respects the Second Amendment, but argued that violence south of the border spiked in 2004 after the expiration of a U.S. ban on semiautomatic weapons. Echoing statements made by President Obama Wednesday, Mr...

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"With all due respect, if you do not regulate the sale of these weapons in the right way, nothing guarantees that criminals here in the United States with access to the same power of weapons will not decide to challenge American authorities and civilians," he said.

Mr. Calderon told a joint session of Congress that of the 75,000 guns seized by Mexican authorities over the last three years, 80 percent are traced to the U.S.

That assertion is suspect as gun-rights advocates and several media outlets have debunked similar figures in the past. Indeed, Mr. Calderon's comments drew a harsh rebuke from the National Rifle Association on Thursday.

"The answer to Mexico's drug and violence problem does not lie in dismantling the Second Amendment; it lies in making sure that the Mexican government takes care of problems on their side of the border," NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said. "With all due respect to the president, he's either intentionally using false data, or he's unknowingly using bad numbers."

Mr. Arulanandam pointed to congressional testimony given in March 2009 by an official with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who said there is no factual basis for the claim that as many as 90 percent of the weapons come from the U.S...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; calderon; felipecalderon; lping; mythof90percent
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To: Stegall Tx
Does it strike anyone as ironic that the Mexican President is complaining that the border is too tight when it comes to people moving north, but too porous when it comes to guns moving south?

Calderon might want a semipermeable membrane for a border, but his whining about Arizona is in regard to Arizona LEOs enforcing federal immigration law being de facto racial profiling well beyond any sort of border.

Calderon's visit strikes me as a Kabuki dance orchestrated for the November's election done as a favor for the rats to rally their base. Only the hard left wants another amnesty, whines about racial profiling even when there's no proof of it and wants a renewal of the so called "assault weapons ban."

Whining about racial profiling will remain as long as different races intermingle, IMHO, but there's probably no chance of another amnesty while the economy is in the crapper or a renewal of an assault weapons ban after 65 rat members of the House sent a letter to Holder last year telling him to fuggitaboutit.

I didn't watch the speech, but if I had to guess, there was no standing ovation for Calderon when he asked for a renewal of an assault weapons ban.

41 posted on 05/22/2010 12:42:48 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Words fail me.


42 posted on 05/22/2010 3:05:24 AM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: neverdem

Felipe’s toking hard on some of that Mexican turf peddled north of his border. Either that or he’s lying. Take yer pick.


43 posted on 05/22/2010 3:22:50 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: All
Mexican President Felipe Calderon can hardly contain his revulsion and rage against Arizona’s SB 1070. He’s "deeply troubled" over a law he denounces as "discriminatory and racist," not to mention “a dire threat to the whole Hispanic-American population." This new Arizona law "opens the door to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement," sputters the Mexican President.

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Indeed, this “threat to Hispanics” and these “abuses in law enforcement," have been ongoing for years.

The Associated Press carried a story where a Maria Elena Gonzalez, reported how female migrants were “forced to strip by abusive Mexican police officers, supposedly to search them, but the purpose is to sexually abuse them." Jose Ramos, 18, reported “that extortion by Mexican border police occurs at every stop on their migratory route. Until migrants are left penniless and begging for food.”

According to AP: “Others said they had seen migrants beaten to death by Mexican police, their bodies left near the railway tracks to make it look as if they had fallen from a train.

"If you're carrying any money, the Mexican police take it from you," said Carlos Lopez. "Federal, state, local Mexican police--all of them shake you down. If you're on a bus, Mexican police pull you off and search your pockets, and if you have any money, the Mexican police keep it all and say, get out of here.” Mexican Police shake down motorists on bogus traffic stops so regularly it is like going through a toll - money paid right there on the spot or your car gets impounded.

All of the above “hate” and “abuses in law enforcement” as reported by the Associated Press, befell Central American migrants who enter Mexico. (Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com

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Get outta my country, Calderon----we spit on you, your countrymen, and your stupid Azatlan ambitions to undermine US national security by grabbing US Territory.

44 posted on 05/22/2010 3:54:01 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: neverdem

This asshole tacobender should shut up and go back to Mexico before someone asks him for his ‘papers’.


45 posted on 05/22/2010 4:47:26 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: KoRn
This idiot is coming here, insulting our country, and peddling LIES

Just so's we're clear...you talk'n 'bout Ohaha or Calderon? Never mind, it applies to both anyway!

46 posted on 05/22/2010 5:08:50 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: neverdem; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
A new tactic of the left is emerging: Bringing foreign politicians to our soil to personally demagouge and berate Americans and their long-held views and traditions. The MSM will be a willing accomplice, no doubt.

This is only the beginning...we have to sweep these infiltrators from power, immediately.



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47 posted on 05/22/2010 5:14:55 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: omega4179
US guns are..beheading Mexican cops with machetes all over the place.

Must be the out-of-control bayonets.

48 posted on 05/22/2010 5:22:28 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: neverdem

Mexico....our continent’s North Korea

Calderon should shut his racist trap. Its his people killing his people

Why have not more Americans been killed? Because Americans have fewer gun restrictions than Mexicans. Also, Mexico has no death penalty


49 posted on 05/22/2010 5:22:31 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: neverdem
Only the hard left wants another amnesty, whines about racial profiling even when there's no proof of it and wants a renewal of the so called "assault weapons ban." Whining about racial profiling will remain as long as different races intermingle

Fine Democrat Party Whine, all! Continuous, supply of whine! Soon to join the Whine, scams, cons, and crises (never let a good crisis go without whine).

50 posted on 05/22/2010 5:22:42 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: neverdem

The only part of that problem which is in any way our problem is the “War on Drugs(TM)”; we need to get rid of it.


51 posted on 05/22/2010 6:04:50 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: doc1019
“I will ask Congress to help us, with respect, and understand how important it is for us to enforce current laws to stem the flow of guns and enforce existing laws as well as consider reinstating the assault weapons ban,” Calderon said. His plea won strong applause from Democrats, but less support from Republicans. Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) joined Democrats in a standing ovation.

This rino POS is way past his expiration date and needs to be removed with extreme prejudice.

52 posted on 05/22/2010 3:50:51 PM PDT by metalurgist (Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't go without a fight.)
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To: neverdem

He and his fellow drug gangs didn’t get thier handgrenades and automatic rifles and explosives from the US.


53 posted on 05/22/2010 4:57:47 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: bamahead; All
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54 posted on 05/23/2010 4:09:09 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

Mexico`s Calderon Knows Nothing About America`s Gun Laws

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=13817

Gun Trafficking to Mexico: Already Against the Law

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=257&issue=015

GAO Reports On Arms Trafficking In Mexico

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4991

With regard to the “87 percent” statistic, the report’s figures make clear that BATFE only traces a fraction of the guns seized. Those firearms are not selected randomly, but are likely selected because they are the guns most likely to have come from the U.S. Trace data reveals nothing about the large number of guns that are not traced.

The report also states “According to U.S. and Mexican government officials, these firearms have been increasingly more powerful and lethal in recent years. For example, many of these firearms are high-caliber and high-powered, such as AK and AR-15 type semiautomatic rifles.” The report, however, states that about 25 percent of firearms traced were of that type, which works out to only eight percent of all firearms seized. Also, the report does not indicate what percentage of murders is committed with various types of firearms, but it does note, “The majority of the casualties have been individuals involved in the drug trade in some way.”


55 posted on 05/24/2010 11:45:00 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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