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For more on the military's ROE in Afghanistan, visit http://victoryinstitute.net/tag/rules-of-engagement/
1 posted on 05/19/2010 1:53:31 PM PDT by Crush
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Does this mean a full magazine but not locked and loaded? I.e. no round in the chamber. It doesn’t take much to chamber a round, but it’s a lot quicker to flip the safety.

If I was patroling in bad-guy land, I don’t care who tells me otherwise, I would be locked and loaded and the safety off. And if my finger goes to the trigger, it’s because I’m about to shoot. I hope this is the attitude and the personal SOP of the troops in Iraq and Afganistan. Damn the ROE!


72 posted on 05/19/2010 3:47:58 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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No ammo allowed???? BRING THEM HOME NOW!!


75 posted on 05/19/2010 4:14:11 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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Bring the troops home. TODAY.


77 posted on 05/19/2010 4:16:43 PM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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ya gotta be kiddin me...
78 posted on 05/19/2010 4:21:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nightshift

gnip


79 posted on 05/19/2010 4:22:04 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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I spent about 50 nights on Perimeter guard duty in Vietnam. The SOP was not to load the weapons until we were being hit.
First thing I would do after getting to the bunker was to load the M60 Machine Gun, then my M-16 and set up some granades where I could reach them. I was never checked.


80 posted on 05/19/2010 4:23:09 PM PDT by Ecliptic
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This has to stop right now.


87 posted on 05/19/2010 5:22:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Forty years of electing leftist fools to Congress have culminated in Nancy Pelosi.)
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The ONLY reason Obama keeps our troops in Afghanistan is to get them killed. Troops tend to be conservative votes.


92 posted on 05/19/2010 6:56:41 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left Ecclesiastes10:2)
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And I bet they have a big ol’ target strapped to their backs.

And why are we reporting this? Can’t be true.


93 posted on 05/19/2010 7:08:27 PM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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I am really tired of this shit. Gotta give the enemy months of warnings before you attack his positions. Can’t carry a round in the chamber of your weapon while you are on patrol. Get a medal for showing restraint in combat (used to call that cowardice). Time to fire the commander in chief and fire some generals.


95 posted on 05/19/2010 7:27:07 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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This is the most outrageous stuff I have ever heard.

I have a nephew in training with the Marines .. and I can’t even fathom him being asked to go on patrol w/o ammunition .. this has to be somebody’s idea of a cruel joke.


98 posted on 05/19/2010 8:35:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Is Obama the Manchurian President ..??)
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The muslim usurper wants American troops killed and the troops and America humiliated.

The Joint Chiefs are cowards.


99 posted on 05/19/2010 8:40:08 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators)
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Those were the same conditions that the Marines in Beirut were under on 23 October 1983 when the Islamikaze bomber rammed into the barracks in his truck. The sentries didn’t have time to insert a magazine and chamber a round...


102 posted on 05/19/2010 9:40:35 PM PDT by LSUfan
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“borders on being criminally negligent in my opinion,” says Lt. Col. W. Thomas Smith Jr., “

It doesn’t just “border” on it, it’s treason.


106 posted on 05/20/2010 12:13:05 AM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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The effing LIBTARDS have DONE IT AGAIN!!!!

Some one needs to find who is responsible for this and put them on trial.

108 posted on 05/20/2010 3:00:57 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist......He meets every diagnostic of history)
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Pure insanity.

It’s not just the “free shot” attitude. It’s multiple free shots.

My son-in-law is in-country in a few weeks. This is outrageous.


111 posted on 05/20/2010 4:52:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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These were the same ROE in Beirut. The morning of the Beirut barracks bombing, guards walked with unchambered rounds. Don’t we ever learn???


115 posted on 05/20/2010 5:19:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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This will be next.

116 posted on 05/20/2010 6:18:23 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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I need to enter gated communities several times a day as part of my work.

I need to show my ID to a guard to get in.

Often the guard is wearing a sidearm.

And I’ll guarantee there is a round in the chamber.

Not only was I born here, but some of my ancestors have been here since the ICE AGE.

Just sayin.


117 posted on 05/20/2010 8:57:19 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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I have a son over there. He is an SF CPT (P) leading two A teams. He recently was moved from Helmand province to Kandahar. He says the rules of engagement they have to operate under are ludicrous. The paper work folowing any action that results in casualties approaches the ridiculous. I never thought I would be saying this, but it’s time to bring the troops home. You can’t win anything with one or more hands tied behind your back. We know Obama is going have us out of there when it is time for him to campaign for reelection. So, why wait? Bring them home now!


118 posted on 05/20/2010 9:09:07 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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