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To: Deb; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; sabe@q.com; TSgt
So you deny there's any kind of on-going campaign to discredit and destroy the church?

I wouldn't deny it for a minute. I'm certain there's a campaign going on. But are you saying that, just because an enemy brings the charge, the charge itself can't be true?

"For while you are going with your opponent to appear before the magistrate, on your way there make an effort to settle with him, so that he may not drag you before the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison.
"I say to you, you will not get out of there until you have paid the very last cent.
"

-- Luke 12:58-59
I don't expect Catholics to "do the math", but I would imagine the people who have dedicated their lives to smearing and stomping them would have some numbers they can use in their war.

So "hav(ing) some numbers to use" = "dedicating lives to smearing and stomping"? Is ignorance truly bliss? How do you feel about Moses penning the books of Numbers and Leviticus in the Old Testament?

As far as the false accusers, there were many examples in Los Angeles of young men who couldn't go thru with seeing innocent priests, they had accused, being dragged thru the mud and they tearfully recanted.

If Cardinal Mahony hadn't intentionally conflated guilty and innocent priests for decades, those young men in Los Angeles would have known which priests they could be safe around. Because Mahony allowed them to remain within the others' midst, all priests suffered for it.

It also came out, according to Cardinal Mahony, that in the early days of the instances where there was abuse, the parents of the children begged the church to keep it quiet and not make the allegations public to protect their children, not to protect the offender. I think Mahony even produced letters from the parents. Note: I am not a Mahony fan at all.

But why should anyone believe Mahony's testimony?

Related threads
(all from the week of the $600 million settlement):
Mahony's Tainted Legacy: Many priests’ sex crimes will stay secret, but now some victims can rest
Nobody Would be Happier Than Me to See Cdl. Mahony Go
Should the Vatican Pay for Abuse?
About $67 per Catholic, more than $1 million per parish [Cost of LA settlement in perspective]
Phony Mahony & the Homosexual Priest Cover-Up
Keeping Secrets: The Laity, the Latin Mass and the LA Settlement
Local Victim Finds Hope In L.A. Archdiocese Case
LA cardinal apologies, offers record abuse deal

119 posted on 05/19/2010 12:33:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Thanks for the absurd straw man and dishonest question of my non-statement. Says a lot about your motives.

As soon as a victim accepts a cash settlement for their victimhood, they cease being a victim and are transformed into a merchant.

Punishment for the offender and his removal should be the only legitimate end, not a payday. For the church to want to protect itself from the people who would destroy it is no crime.

And I don't need links to material condemning Mahony. I said I wasn't a fan.

124 posted on 05/19/2010 12:46:08 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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