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Stocks Fall as Germany Blocks 'Naked' Short Bets
Wall Street Journal ^ | MAY 18, 2010

Posted on 05/18/2010 11:12:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway

The stock market fell deeper into the red amid reports that Germany will issue new restrictions on bearish trading.

SNIP

Germany will ban so-called naked short-selling from midnight, a lawmaker with the ruling Christian Democratic Union told Dow Jones Newswires. He added that Chancellor Angela Merkel will announce the plan in her speech to the lower house of parliament Wednesday morning.

Naked short selling—which differs from short selling in that the sold shares aren't borrowed in advance—came under fire at the height of Greece's struggle to refinance its debt, with many euro-zone governments saying such transactions in credit-default swaps, a type of default insurance, artificially inflated Greek funding costs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: euro; germany; market; markets; nakedshort; shorting
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This is a desperate move that will probably make it worse.
1 posted on 05/18/2010 11:12:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Kind of like yelling “STOP” at the incoming tide.


2 posted on 05/18/2010 11:13:29 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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This is a desperate move that will probably make it worse.

Then the Obummer administration must be getting ready to do the same.

3 posted on 05/18/2010 11:14:53 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: nickcarraway

Yep.

Look at the actions of the nit-wit Chris Cox during our market melt-down. Ban shorting... of only financial companies. Meanwhile, options were still allowed, futures were still allowed, etc.

There are so many ways to take up a short position that banning direct shorting isn’t a smart move.

Now, the Germans are doing something smart - banning “naked” shorts - but they should do this when the market is normal, not in a turmoil. The banning of naked shorts is something that should be done in the US equities markets too.


4 posted on 05/18/2010 11:15:25 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: nickcarraway

Naked shorting should be illegal.


5 posted on 05/18/2010 11:15:49 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators)
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To: Frantzie

Why?


6 posted on 05/18/2010 11:16:03 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I have no problem with banning naked short selling as long as short selling remains in place.


7 posted on 05/18/2010 11:18:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: nickcarraway

If this is true, it’s a stupid move. Shorts play a big role in keeping big markets liquid.


8 posted on 05/18/2010 11:19:49 AM PDT by RexBeach
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Naked shorting should be illegal.

I don't know why, but I thought of Danny DeVito when I read your post.

9 posted on 05/18/2010 11:20:29 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nickcarraway

You have to have a lot of assets to go short naked.

And that’s the truth!


10 posted on 05/18/2010 11:21:37 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: nickcarraway

The manipulator does not have to put up any money.


11 posted on 05/18/2010 11:25:16 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators)
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To: Frantzie

Naked short selling is already illegal here, as far as I know.


12 posted on 05/18/2010 11:27:15 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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>>The banning of naked shorts is something that should be done in the US equities markets too.

Naked shorting is already banned in US markets.


13 posted on 05/18/2010 11:27:59 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: Deo volente

They were doing it all through 2008. The hedge funds are allowed to do what ever they want to do. They own the Senate.


14 posted on 05/18/2010 11:28:15 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators)
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To: Frantzie

Naked shorting is nothing short of counterfeiting a stock. Create the stock out of thin air and sell it by not borrowing it from the DTCC.You dilute ownership and flood the markets thus causing a drop in price.

Another thing, when Goldman and these other companies were selling naked shorts on Bear, Lehamn etc-they never covered their postions,thus the taxes made from the profit are not owed.

The most profitable scam on wall street in the hisotry of this country is naked shorting. They have made trillions putting companies out of business


15 posted on 05/18/2010 11:33:46 AM PDT by ground_fog
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I know that it has become a standard practice over many years now, and never prosecuted but as God is my Witness, I still believe naked shorting remains illegal.
It is just in the not illegal, illegal catagory sort of like illegal immigration.


16 posted on 05/18/2010 11:56:42 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nickcarraway

I agree with the rule. You shouldn’t be allowed to sell stock that you don’t own, or offer to sell stock that isn’t available for you to own.

Since the “stock market” is in fact a snapshot of the shares offered for sale at a particular point, allowing a well-financed trader to essentially offer for sale MORE than the total shares outstanding in a company, at a loss, allows that trader to manipulate the market, forcing the stock lower, when in fact there is nobody at that time who really wanted to sell the stock.

But having done so, in this environment, scares real holders of the stock into selling THEIR shares,and so the trader makes money on the panic he induced by “selling” stock he didn’t have.

Short sales should require that the seller have available for purchase sufficient shares to cover his sales to the purchasers.


17 posted on 05/18/2010 12:09:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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In regular short selling, I must borrow the stock from another account before selling. When I cover my short sale, the stock gets returned.

In naked short selling, it's possible for me to "sell" more stock than actually exists. It's counterfeiting shares.

18 posted on 05/18/2010 12:10:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: nickcarraway
Naked shorting...shouldn't be allowed anyway.

This should have been done years ago....

Reminds me of a News Lead-In I heard the other day....here in OK.

The bit was something like this...: "Employees of School Districts to be screened for Felonies"....My friend and I both looked at each other and said..."They aren't NOW!!??!!???"

19 posted on 05/18/2010 12:15:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: nickcarraway

Of course you are right. This is a desperation move by a politician with no understanding of how the markets work. A stupid “blame Wall Street” mentality.

Short selling shares, even naked, injects liquidity. Short sellers did not create the financial crisis.

EPIC FAIL by Merkel, which will really sink the Euro even more.


20 posted on 05/18/2010 12:19:07 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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