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Immigration and the Long-Term Decline in Employment Among U.S.-Born Teenagers
cis ^ | May 2010 | Steven A. Camarota, Karen Jensenius

Posted on 05/17/2010 5:08:38 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

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1 posted on 05/17/2010 5:08:39 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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The evidence indicates that immigration accounts for a significant share of the decline in teen labor force participation.

I would guess that "significant share of the decline", is laziness, selfishness, and the "Mom Buy me that!" attitude I see in so many young people. ( My 14 year old daughter pointed this out to me. )

2 posted on 05/17/2010 5:13:21 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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I don’t know, I’m with the kids on this one. Plenty of time to lose your job to cheap foreign labor when they become adults. Why rush it?


3 posted on 05/17/2010 5:17:06 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: DYngbld

My 16yo wants to work and has already started looking for a summer job. The pickings are slim


4 posted on 05/17/2010 5:18:01 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (Defensor Fortis)
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To: DYngbld
The potential legal liability should a minor be injured on the job is probably a bigger factor. This one really is a government created problem.

When I was fourteen, I loaded trucks for North American Van Lines. You couldn't do that today.

5 posted on 05/17/2010 5:18:16 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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“When I was fourteen, I loaded trucks for North American Van Lines. You couldn’t do that today”

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That’s true. My sister worked for UPS as a young woman and really hurt her back—to this day it bothers her, and she’s in her 40’s.


6 posted on 05/17/2010 5:22:58 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Although there is good evidence that immigration is reducing teenage labor market participation, other factors have likely also contributed . . .

I think this author has the cause/effect relationship backwards.

I think one reason teenagers have disappeared from the workforce is that: (1) they don't want to work, and (2) our country has come to rely on teenagers whose primary role is to be consumers, not workers.

This is starkly evident at towns up and down the New Jersey shore. Many businesses there employ seasonal labor from places like Ireland and Eastern Europe -- while American teenagers loaf around and spend long stretches of their summers down there patronizing the same businesses where their parents probably worked a generation earlier.

7 posted on 05/17/2010 5:23:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I just wonder how much the minimum wage has to do with teen unemployment.


8 posted on 05/17/2010 5:27:37 AM PDT by Mustard Plaster
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To: MrEdd
The potential legal liability should a minor be injured on the job is probably a bigger factor.

I'll give you that one.

My daughter statement comes from her observations. She notices "a gap", as she calls it in the age group between 16ish and 30ish. The group in the middle is going to be mostly forgotten about or marginalized in the future, because of a "spoiled brat, buy me that! attitude". To talk to her about it is interesting, I'll will tell you that I don't worry about her political, moral, or religious convictions.

9 posted on 05/17/2010 5:31:36 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child
I think one reason teenagers have disappeared from the workforce is that: (1) they don't want to work, and (2) our country has come to rely on teenagers whose primary role is to be consumers, not workers.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!

10 posted on 05/17/2010 5:34:22 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Mustard Plaster
I just wonder how much the minimum wage has to do with teen unemployment.

I still think the attitude of this age group has a ton to do with it, it all works hand in hand. If I HAVE to pay you XYZ, I would expect XYZ about of work, not just XY and show up to work late, text all your friends, and leave early.

11 posted on 05/17/2010 5:38:14 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

My wife and I are well-off and have three kids. I think we will encourage our children to work at part-time jobs ONLY to the extent it helps them prepare for college and a career. The pocket change they could earn at McDonald’s will not “move the needle”, but a full academic college scholarship might. We want their minds focused on the latter. We are Asian Indian. I think many parents of all races think the same way, but our views may be especially common among Asians. If it became clear that one of our kids were not “college material”, we would have to rethink our approach.


12 posted on 05/17/2010 5:40:02 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: Bad~Rodeo
I am glad to see these studies. Here's one from a few years ago.

A Northeastern University study found that a high rate of immigration significantly reduces job opportunities for teens

I hate to see teens so maligned. Not all are exemplary but there are tons of them doing remarkable things the most praiseworthy is of course fighting the Nation's wars.

The Center for Labor Market Studies, Northeastern University, Boston, Massachusetts has done several studies.

13 posted on 05/17/2010 5:40:04 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Just 45 percent were in the labor force, which means they worked or were looking for work. Only one-third actually held a job

The first short paragraph shoots down the assertion of those who want to say today's teens are too lazy and don't want to find jobs. 45% want jobs, 33% have jobs. A pretty high unemployment rate among those looking for jobs. And if there were more opportunities, it's safe to say even more citizen teens would be looking.

14 posted on 05/17/2010 5:42:47 AM PDT by Will88
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To: MrEdd
When I was fourteen, I loaded trucks for North American Van Lines. You couldn't do that today.

I started working as a dishwasher for a steak house at 13. Until I started having kids I worked. Now my 15 year old son who REALLY wants to work because he wants a car, gets told no one hires 15s because of the liability and restricted hours. In Nebraska 14 & 15s can only work after 4:00 pm and before 7:00 pm during the week with a total of 18 hours per week during the school year. What employer in their right mind would want to mess with that? None in my area.

15 posted on 05/17/2010 5:46:38 AM PDT by Vor Lady ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

“The most likely reason immigrants displace U.S.-born teenagers is that the vast majority of immigrants are fully developed adults.”

Illegal included? Roofers I see are all Latino, many adults now have landscaping companies, and newspapers are going under. Any other positions beside “fat” food restaurants?


16 posted on 05/17/2010 5:48:42 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Bad~Rodeo

The Obama plan for Teenagers appears to be to sign them up for Americorps, the Civilian Defense Corps, or some other Brown Shirt organization, in exhange for which they will get free tuition and student aid to keep them in college until their 30’s (a la Germany). From there they will be shuttled straight into Gubbermint make-work jobe (Michelle’s “helping careers”) until they can retire on full Gubbermint pensions at age 50.


17 posted on 05/17/2010 5:53:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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When I was fourteen, I loaded trucks for North American Van Lines. You couldn't do that today.

Unintended consequences of the nanny state are what is keeping the teenagers from working. I was working 40+ hours a week when I was 15. It's illegal to do that now. I was operating a meat slicer. You have to be 18 to do that now.

18 posted on 05/17/2010 5:53:36 AM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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of course, having no other options in life at that point, they can then be counted on to participate in Greek-style riots should those pesky Republicans ever get into power and start cutting spending.


19 posted on 05/17/2010 5:54:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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That was my first thought

New minimum wage and consumer spending bubble popping.


20 posted on 05/17/2010 5:56:26 AM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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