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To: hoosiermama; onyx; STARWISE; Liz; thouworm
“Just three weeks after filing for a patent for his carbon trade system, Bartels was killed during the attacks of 9/11.”

How convenient...I’d like to know more was he invited to visit someone in one of the buildings?

Are any of our “Big WIgs’ connected to binLadin, other than his brother or perhaps through his brother. Kill 3,000 so the murder of one is not obvious....

OR....Did he just have an office there?

Reeks of some sort of conspiracy theory, doesn’t it?! /tinfoilhat

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REMEMBERING THE VICTIMS
Wichita Eagle, The (KS) - Monday, November 26, 2001
On Sept. 11, thousands of people were victims of the most horrific act of terrorism ever in America. But their lives, their promise and their stories are being told. Here are some of them:

Carlton W. Bartels

Her father was aghast: There on the doorstep of her family’s West Brighton home in Staten Island stood Carlton W. Bartels, suitor. “Carl had thick, wavy brown hair, down to his shoulders,” recalled Jane Bartels, the object of his affection, decades later. “And a suede fringe jacket.”

The couple managed to date and grow close, but then careers separated them. While in his 20s, Bartels took an 18-month trip around the world with his savings. He asked her to join him in Jakarta, where they inched toward Europe. They married in 1988. Bartels was an electrical engineer by training and had become, at 26, one of the top utility regulators in Vermont. At 44, he was a partner at Cantor Fitzgerald in the World Trade Center, specializing in using the commodity markets to encourage the reduction of greenhouse gases.

Bartels had his antic side, Jane Bartels recalled. While on his epic trip, living in a Thai village, Carlton Bartels took to wearing a favorite sarong, a black-and-white skirt with Buddha figures. But one day, the villagers giggled. He was wearing a sarong for a woman. Unfazed, he continued to wear it, even back home, years later, when the couple had settled back in Staten Island. Their daughters - Melina, who turned 8 on Sunday, and Eva, 4 - loved it.

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41 posted on 05/14/2010 9:17:14 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

QUestion with boldness.....

Remember the drawing of the tower with the airplane before 9-11. SOmeone, somewhere in the world knew. It was being discussed.

THere were other targets that could have been chosen. SO many that when the chatter increased no one knew where it was to take place, just that it would....But someone chose that target for a reason.

So tinfoil or not we must question with boldness....Why that building? Why not the stock market, or even just Wall Street?

Who else in the building conveniently died that day?


42 posted on 05/14/2010 9:28:19 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: maggief

Jakarta mid nineteen eighties...WHo else was there? SADO?


48 posted on 05/14/2010 9:54:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT

Was SADO near Jarkata in the mid 1980s?


52 posted on 05/14/2010 10:07:34 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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