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1 posted on 05/13/2010 12:57:50 PM PDT by AJKauf
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I oppose it but I am willing to let it be put to a vote by the public and overwhelmingly the population votes it down every time. Legislatures have shown they will reject the will of the people, just look at the Obamacare vote.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 12:59:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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I really hardly care what they do. What I really oppose is redefining things as one pleases to suit whatever. You can call a cat a dog, but it’s still a dog. You can call two men living together as man and wife a marriage, but it is not one. However, at this point, I think we should just make all marriages a contract, let people decide what they want them to be and then make people abide by them. Legal and binding.


3 posted on 05/13/2010 1:03:46 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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I really wouldn’t equate Laura’s actual quote (”But I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone else has”)as being pro-Gay Marriage, I would classify it as pro-Marriage Equality - giving the same legal protections to same-sex couples, not necessarily the title of “marriage” I think many people would support giving civil unions the same medical, tax, inheritance rights as marriage.


5 posted on 05/13/2010 1:06:19 PM PDT by BreitbartSentMe ((Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*))
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The author of this article makes the same classic mistakes that result from the left-wing propaganda about the gay marriage movement and about political ideologies as well. The gay marriage movement is not about freedom but is an anti-freedom movement. It is also not about achieving equal rights but about denying rights to people. The left-wing gay rights movement is about forcing society to accept their perverted moral premises. They want to make it illegal to disagree with their moral premise of homosexuality being equal to heterosexuality. This is evidenced by the fact that many companies are already being punished by force of law for not treating homosexuality and heterosexuality as equal. (E-Harmony for one was sued for this.) That is not freedom but is instead a classic example of the progressive movement trying to force their perverted morality on society. They are anti-equality as well being that they do not want everyone to have equal representation on issues of how sexuality is dealt with in public. The progressives want this dictated to everyone from the judicial bench and to deny people an equal right to representation. And as for his claim that adhering to an ideology is looking backwards, I take this as just pure propaganda. This is just a means for attacking those who do not accept his agenda. The same type of argument could be made to promote pedophilia, rape or murder. It is simply the claim that if you have values then you are looking backwards, the author is ignorant.


9 posted on 05/13/2010 1:22:51 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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Maybe I'll get blasted here, but seems to me that individuals should have a right to enter into legal contracts that don't affect other people. That is an individual freedom. It's nobody else's business, just like a person's religious beliefs are nobody else's business. It seems to me that if the government can't respect an establishment of religion, they shouldn't be prying into individuals' bedrooms. Gays have always existed and will continue to exist into the future. So long as individuals don't try to push their philosophy (whether religion or sexual preference) onto me, then I don't have a problem with them entering into legal lifetime partnership contracts if they choose to do so. To mandate some individual freedoms but disallow others that don't impact anyone but the parties involved just seems hypocritical to me, and I really hate hypocrits.

But the most important point for me is that we have too many much more critical issues facing us: progression towards socialism (government takeovers of way too many things in our daily lives that should be left to the states and/or the individuals), national defense, economy, border security, religions that do not tolerate other religions and try to foist their beliefs onto me, etc. The old axiom "keep your powder dry" comes to mind. Focusing all this energy on gay marriage makes it seem as if we're against everything. Seems to me we should devote our efforts to the most serious issues.

When a plane is on fire and the pilot is fighting to get it safely on the ground, beverage service is not a real important priority for me.

Either we're going to have individual freedoms or we're not. It doesn't make sense to argue for individual freedoms for some issues and against them on others. I just want the government to leave me alone.

14 posted on 05/13/2010 2:05:29 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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Marriage is between one man and one woman.


17 posted on 05/13/2010 2:44:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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Worst mistake Reagan every made. My three worst votes ever. Never again.


29 posted on 05/13/2010 9:35:46 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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Gay Marriage: Laura Bush, Dick Cheney and Barack Obama

Ack! There IS NO discrimination concerning gays and marriage-

They have the SAME right to marry a person of the opposite sex that everybody else does.

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What they want are special rights to have a legally-sanctioned pairing with whoever is the object of their affections.

When confronted with a 'gay-marriage' proponent, I just ask a simple question-

Why can't I marry my brother?

That usually sends their heads spinning so fast, they can't come up with a reply.

32 posted on 05/14/2010 6:02:42 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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