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Task Force Tackles Integration of Women into Sub Crews
American Forces Press Service ^ | Ian Graham

Posted on 05/12/2010 5:47:30 PM PDT by SandRat

WASHINGTON, May 12, 2010 – A Navy task force is relying on the service’s experience with similar milestones as it works to implement the lifting of a long-standing ban on women serving on submarine crews.

In a “DoD Live” bloggers roundtable yesterday, Navy Rear Adm. Barry L. Bruner, commander of Submarine Group 10 and leader of the integration task force, noted that the first female sailors were assigned to noncombat ships in 1978, and the 1994 repeal of the Combat Exclusion Law allowed women to serve on Navy combat ships.

“As we go back and look at the lessons we learned in both 1978 and 1979, and again in 1994 and 1995, the Navy’s got a great history of working our way through an integration like this,” he said.

The first batch of officer trainees has been accepted into the submarine training program, and will serve on crews by late 2011 or early 2012, the admiral said. The Navy is considering the cost of modifying submarines to allow enlisted women to serve on their crews, he added, though no timeline is set for integrating enlisted crews yet.

One concern about bringing women onto submarines was that living quarters offered little privacy and weren’t considered suitable for mixed-gender habitation, Bruner said.

“We’re trying in a very deliberate fashion to ensure that one, we’re treating the men and women exactly the same, and two, to be brutally frank, we’re very careful that we’re doing the right thing both in representing the taxpayers’ dollars and America as a whole,” he said.

Over the past 40 years, Bruner said, the percentage of men in the Navy going to college and earning technical degrees has dropped from 70 percent to 25 percent, while the number of women earning technical degrees in the Navy has risen.

“Today, women are actually earning more technical degrees than men are,” he said. “We really need to open up the talent pool so we can maintain the best options available in our submarine force.”

Implementing the policy change will begin by assigning three female officers in eight different crews of guided-missile-attack and ballistic-missile submarines. The assignments involve two submarines on the East Coast and two on the West Coast, each of which is supported by a Blue and Gold crew, Bruner explained. More living space is available aboard these platforms, he noted, so no modifications are necessary, permitting the Navy to move quickly on integrating female officers into submarine crews.

“We may end up with more than three or four women being brought into these crews – the plan right now is to have two ensigns and a supply officer,” Bruner said.

The integration of women into the submarine force is an emotional topic for some, the admiral acknowledged, but the Navy is taking the correct measures and is going about the integration in a deliberate fashion.

“As we implement this, we’ll learn lessons,” he said. “Based on what we learn, then we’ll make a decision on what the next step ahead is.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: crews; navy; submarine; usn; women
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1 posted on 05/12/2010 5:47:30 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat
Nothing good will come of this, IMHO.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
2 posted on 05/12/2010 5:51:23 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
As an ex Navy man I can say this.

This will bring a whole new meaning to the game of "Hide the Torpedo."

3 posted on 05/12/2010 5:54:46 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it. Forever. Amen.)
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To: SandRat

As a junior NUC officer on a submarine I can at least give my opinion, this is a VERY BAD IDEA. Obama and his PC fools need to go.


4 posted on 05/12/2010 5:55:56 PM PDT by politicianslie (Lying got Obama elected, they don't care what you think, shut up and pay your taxes)
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To: SandRat
There used to be three officer's to a stateroom, although we shared one head, so having three female officers would probably work, as well as it could. Of course, the Chinese ideogram for trouble is two women under one roof, so who knows what three in one room would be. ;-)
5 posted on 05/12/2010 5:56:54 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: SandRat

Das Boot would’ve been a completely different movie.


6 posted on 05/12/2010 5:57:00 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: SandRat

This will work out well, fer sure.


7 posted on 05/12/2010 5:57:02 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

but it’s so PC.. < / sarc


8 posted on 05/12/2010 5:57:23 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Das Boot would’ve been a completely different movie.


9 posted on 05/12/2010 5:57:40 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: politicianslie

Agree


10 posted on 05/12/2010 5:57:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Can’t see this working at all. Bad idea.


11 posted on 05/12/2010 5:58:35 PM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: SubMareener

The Witches of Warwick.


12 posted on 05/12/2010 5:59:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Blackhawk
This will bring a whole new meaning to the game of "Hide the Torpedo."

errrrrrrrr what was the old meaning?

13 posted on 05/12/2010 6:00:54 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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Over the past 40 years, Bruner said, the percentage of men in the Navy going to college and earning technical degrees has dropped from 70 percent to 25 percent, while the number of women earning technical degrees in the Navy has risen.

I'd like to see some other statistics that parallel the education issue over the same period. Bet I can make a few good guesses as to the cause of this change, though.

14 posted on 05/12/2010 6:02:08 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: SandRat
Along with the compassion medal - what a travesty!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
15 posted on 05/12/2010 6:03:02 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Blackhawk
This will bring a whole new meaning to the game of "Hide the Torpedo."

"Hot-racking", too.

16 posted on 05/12/2010 6:03:43 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: SandRat

Right! Heaven help the Captain who looks like Jack Nickelson!


17 posted on 05/12/2010 6:04:16 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: SandRat
A Navy task force is relying on the service’s experience with similar milestones

Milestones?

Or was it millstones?

I missed the part where they explained how it would help our Navy kill more of our enemies.

18 posted on 05/12/2010 6:04:29 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: TheRealDBear
They would have had to call it Das Booty!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
19 posted on 05/12/2010 6:04:51 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Saints preserve us!!!! Oops! Should I have said that????


20 posted on 05/12/2010 6:07:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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