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To: curiosity
I guess words from others suffice for you. Is it okay with you then if all the illegal aliens simply say "I was born in McAllen, TX? Is it okay when one applies for a job to put up a document on the web and say "there it is"? You don't think demanding proof, that the so called abstract, is genuine? They cannot be use for a passport except as the basis for the State Department to ask for more information and a birth certificate. That is what will happen when someone uses a COLB. The state department will say "we don't have enough information to comnplete your request for a passport".'

STEP 2: Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship

When applying for a U.S. passport in person, evidence of U.S. citizenship must be submitted with Form DS-11. All documentation submitted as citizenship evidence will be returned to you. These documents will be delivered with your newly issued U.S. passport or in a separate mailing.

Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):

Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport

Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*

 Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
 Naturalization Certificate
 Certificate of Citizenship

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

NOTE: If you do not have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship or your U.S. birth certificate does not meet the requirements, please see Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship.

 

  1. Where in there do you find a way to submit an abstract known as a COLB and it would be sufficient on its own? 
  2. Does it not make sense to you that Barry proferred a fraudulent document and he knows it, since he provided one for college, to obtain his original passport and then found one among his mother's belongings upon her death.
  3. Why would he not just slap up one of those?  Why?

232 posted on 05/12/2010 12:05:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Where in there do you find a way to submit an abstract known as a COLB and it would be sufficient on its own?

From these words:

"A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth."

Obama's COLB meets all the above requirements. It's got a raised seal, the registrar's signature, and it was filed within 4 days if his birth.

Furthermore, the Hawaii DOH explicitly says their COLB is good enough to get a passport.

Of course, instead of focusing on the above text, you focus on the following:

Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

For some reason, you seem to have missed the word "some." You see, some abstracts, not all, are not acceptable. Why? From the context, it's obvious that some abstracts don't have one of the following: a raised seal, registrar's signature, or dated filed. But Obama's does, so it's obvious that his abstract is fine.

Does it not make sense to you that Barry proferred a fraudulent document and he knows it,

No, since there's not a shred of evidence to suggest he did any such thing.

since he provided one for college,

I went to Columbia just like Barry. I never had to show them by birth certificate. I don't know what the policy is at occidental, but I have no reason to believe it is any different.

to obtain his original passport

He could very well have presented a COLB similar to the one he posted.

and then found one among his mother's belongings upon her death. Why would he not just slap up one of those? Why?

Perhaps because he lost it, or he had it in a box somewhere in his garage and couldn't find it, or perhaps he had to submit it for some reason and never got it back.

People do lose birth certificates, you know. Why else would states issue new copies of them on demand?

330 posted on 05/12/2010 2:23:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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