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To: Jim 0216
What is this and what is Vattel? I

Vattle is the author of the very influenctial "The Law of Nations or Principles of the Law of Nature Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns He was Swiss, worked for a German prince, and wrote in French.

The issue here is the Natural Born Citizen term in the eligibility clause of Art. II of the Constitution. Since he wrote in French, he did not write "natural born citizen", but he did write:

Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens

Which the early (as in the very next year after he wrote the rather large work) translations converted that to:

The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens

But the more recent version (1793 or perhaps 1797 and later) say:

The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens

7 posted on 05/11/2010 6:15:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Since neither Vattel or his translators used the term “natural born citizens” until after the Constitution was written, it seems highly unlikely he was the source of the terminology.

Is it possible the translators got the term from the Constitution rather than the other way around?


10 posted on 05/11/2010 6:36:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: El Gato; rxsid; BP2; STARWISE

http://www.archive.org/stream/ledroitdesgensou03vattuoft#page/n37/mode/2up

Vattel’s Law of Nations taught Kings College 1773, now Columbia University


12 posted on 05/11/2010 6:38:40 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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15 posted on 05/11/2010 7:17:08 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: El Gato

But Vattel isn’t the rule of law in the U.S. The Constitution is. ObamaNazi and his Leftist gang trying to nullify the Constitution


40 posted on 05/12/2010 3:06:16 AM PDT by Jim W N
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