Posted on 05/10/2010 5:57:07 PM PDT by rxsid
On one of these threads yesterday, someone pointed out that Kapiolani Hospital was not built until 1970, well after Obama was born. Until that time it was merely a clinic, a clinic that referred its birthing mothers to Queens Hospital.
That doesn’t jive with the Nordyke birth certificates.
Because they are profoundly pointed statements with which I agree. Do you have a problem with those statements?
I am well aware of that. I am also well aware of how this battle will be fought out in the arena of public opinion by the lying left. And it was to future perception - not fact - that my Tea Party comment addressed.
How can a USURPER command our armed forces?
How can a USURPER sign any treaties with foreign governments?
How can a USURPER sign anything into law, let alone the health care monstrosity?
Obama did not seize control of the government. Control was granted to him by the states. The question here is how could our individual states let us down by casting electoral votes for someone who was not qualified to hold office. Arizona has taken the correct step by demanding proof of natural born citizenship for future elections. I hope the remaining states will follow suit.
Please don't get me wrong here. I would love to see Obama tossed out on the curb with the rest of the garbage. But at this point, I don't see any way for a winning scenario to materialize. The damage has already been done, and it was done because each State allowed a spot on a Presidential ballot to an unqualified candidate. Removing him from office will do nothing to return the $3 trillion in deficit spending that has occurred under his tenure. It will not turn the clock back on the Health Insurance bill. And it will not repair the egregious damage that has been done in the arena of foreign policy.
From a political standpoint, continuing to push the case for disqualification comes with a huge opportunity cost. I believe that there is much more to gain by winning a victory in the arena of ideology than to abstain from that battle to fight another.
The average American will be much more personally affected by the perils of socialism than he will be by a legal argument on constitutional law. And it is here that I choose to fight my battle. If every American held the Constitution in the highest regard it so richly deserves, then a Barack Obama would never get elected in the first place.
The rule of law supercedes every other issue at this point, because without the rule of law, it doesn’t matter what laws we have. We already have some wonderful laws on the books. Nobody follows them. We can collect all the good laws in the world but they won’t make a lick of difference if nobody follows them. And that’s what this is really about.
If people see Obama as the victim of a "Republican" witch hunt (and that's what the media will successfully make it look like) they'll rally to his defense. And face it, most voters out there don't spend time on political forums and don't know COLBs from Vattels. They'll forget all about his screw-ups while Republican policymakers will be forced to opine on the issue every time they face the press, making embarrassing statements they have to retract or backpedal away from. It'll be the Clinton impeachment disaster all over again.
There's good reason no influential conservative wants anything to do with this birther nonsense.
This is the arena of ideology with one side contending that they don't have to keep the rules and laws that the other side is expected to keep.
The average American will be much more personally affected by the perils of socialism than he will be by a legal argument on constitutional law.
No they won't. Americans love their socialism because of all those goodies it brings. They are just beginning to get the bill, and still don't see the connection.
The restraints of consitutional law will keep us from socialism. That's why the socialists hate the chains of a constitution, even when it is a constitution that they drew up. Lawlessness and socialism go hand in hand. Just ask that lawless Muslim socialist in the Oval Office right now.
Some states allowed a candidate on their ballot (and votes were cast for him) who is a alien green card holder (i.e. not even a "citizen" let alone a "natural born citizen") who also happens to have a felony record as well. Clearly, the "system" is broken. That, however, doesn't mean that Barry is legit.
How can Arizona "demand" proof that one is a Natural Born Citizen? It's clear what the framers intended with that term, but it hasn't been ruled on by SCOTUS. Can you not see how Barry could challenge such a law in court? The state of Arizona (just like the court in Indiana) can not define what a "Natural born citizen" is as intended by the framers for the Constitutional requirement for POTUS. Barry could simply offer up a certified copy of the world famous short form document and say...see...I was born in HI. Now what? Is the state of Arizona going to accept that? Is the state of Arizona going to say, well...even though you were born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England you qualify because you've shown us a certified short form.
Don't forget, it took "them" over 2 years to finally get to Nixon. He resigned, not after being found guilty in a court of law, but he resigned over building Congressional pressure over the "cover-up."
His precedent must not be allowed to be set. There is a reason this issue hasn't gone away. People do really care about the Constitution. And that includes the Natural Born Citizen requirement for the Commander in Chief of the armed forces.
A Constitutionally unqualified person can not be POTUS. How, then, can an illegal POTUS sign the health care law? How can he make federal court appointments or SCOTUS replacement picks? He can't. Never could. Furthermore when this fraud upon the American people and our Constitution is finally exposed mainstream, it will damage the (D) brand with the independents and blue dogs for a very long time. The crazy far left will be marginalized more completely than anything else could. 1 stone, multiple birds.
Well, the problem is that your post 19 is in total hypocritical contrary to what you have said "I agree to."
Agreed. It’s too late at this point. Even if we succeed at kicking him out of office (at a gargantuan political cost), we are still stuck with Axelrod’s new puppet - Joe Biden. Better for the people to see Obama for who he really is than to see him as a victim of a Tea Party witch hunt.
Seems that you are tooooo shallow to understand if your dear leader is removed, the whole DNC and part of RNC will be sinking together faster than Titanic, deservedly so, and has nothing to do with the Tea Party but all to do with a gigantically Constitutional crisis that our country has never been faced with in its history !!!
And that nonsense is that your very dear leader know exactly how and when and where to play the "dreaded" RACE CARD very effectively by totally have neutered the Clintons, Congress, the Judicial system, and even including YOU!!!
any news today?
First, let me correct you. There is nothing about Barack Obama that I hold dear. Second, there is nothing hypocritical about the quotations on my home page and my statements here. They are completely independent of each other. My analysis of the present political situation is not an exposition of ideology. And lastly, the Constitutional crisis occurred when various states of this Union selected Obama as our President.
If you seek a Constitutional Convention at this time, I would urge you to reconsider. I have no faith whatsoever that our current citizens could even come close to the perfection our Founding fathers blessed us with 223 years ago. Do you really want people who voted for Obama getting the opportunity to rewrite our Constitution?
All quiet on the Muslim front at 1600 Pennsy Ave.
I do not. Yet others are more gullible.
Clearly, the "system" is broken. That, however, doesn't mean that Barry is legit.
I never implied that he was legit.
How can Arizona "demand" proof that one is a Natural Born Citizen?
Easy. It is the States that elect the President (Article II, Section 1). And there is nothing in the Constitution that prevents a State from setting its own rules for ballot qualification. Nothing.
A Constitutionally unqualified person can not be POTUS.
Look again. We currently have a President who is Constitutionally unqualified. It has already happened.
How, then, can an illegal POTUS sign the health care law?
Because the electors of 28 states acted to elect him President of the United States.
Furthermore when this fraud upon the American people and our Constitution is finally exposed mainstream, it will damage the (D) brand with the independents and blue dogs for a very long time.
This will not be a non-issue to a large plurality of Americans who are too busy to waste any thought on the political process. Far more damaging in these people's thoughts will be the devastating effects of the Democrat's policies which will detrimentally affect all Americans.
Barack Obama must be driven out of office - not because he was born in Kenya - but because he is destroying the prosperity of this once great nation and robbing us all of our future.
That has been ongoing for a long, long time. I call it the Double-Standard of the Self-Anointed. However, this issue is based purely in deception - not hypocrisy. Democrats are not arguing that it's OK for someone born in Kenya to be President of the US, as long as that person happens to be a Democrat.
Americans love their socialism because of all those goodies it brings. They are just beginning to get the bill, and still don't see the connection.
Give it fifteen more months. Americans will learn that they cannot afford socialism.
The restraints of constitutional law will keep us from socialism. That's why the socialists hate the chains of a constitution,
Agreed. The baffling part though is that Obama as a candidate made no secret of his contempt for the Constitution, and a majority of the voters voted for him. He is only the seventh Democrat in our nation's history to win a majority of the popular vote which makes me wonder whether a majority of Americans even care about the Constitution.
I bid you well in your endeavor to remove him from office on a Constitutional technicality. I will be spending my resources on educating others on a Constitution on which their fleeting liberty was based.
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