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To: antiRepublicrat
Android phones are currently getting quality video from sources such as TV.com, Discovery, YouTube, etc. It all works great on the Droid right now — minus Flash. Flash is simply no longer necessary

/sarc. Is that why I use Flash very day to watch great programs on HULU, playoff clips/matches on Foxsports.com, NBA.COM, NHL.COM all running really great with no problems at all. And is that why there are literally thousands of sites serving great Flash games on the internet?

Like other Macromedia products I mentioned, it has been superseded by superior and more widely available products and technologies.”

Like what?
Name me even one technology that has superseded Flash on the internet for video streaming and games.

Even Google isn't exactly excited about putting Flash in Android, they're only doing it because many people want it”

That's what companies(and politicians fort that matter) are supposed to do. Do what the people/their costumers demand.

Specifically, access to sites such as Hulu are mentioned. But wait, Hulu is moving to HTML5 and H.264 anyway (in fact, already have H.264 versions of all of their video, ready to serve).”

Like someone else mentioned on another thread, HTML5 is not even on the same planet as Flash right now. It has a very long way to go before it gets as good as Flash (if ever). Right now, vastly more sites use Flash than HTML5.
Heck, HTML5 does not even work on all browsers yet, nor has it even been standardized yet even by the W3C themselves:
http://www.w3.org/QA/2009/05/_watching_the_google_io.html .

The inclusion of Flash is also just a jab at Jobs.”

Google is putting Flash in Android because their costumers demand it. It's that simple. Jobs can boycott Flash all he wants, its not gonna stop Android from continuing to grab market share from the iPhone for the foreseeable future, and with it, put Flash on more smartphones than there are iPhones..

126 posted on 05/12/2010 12:53:24 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Is that why I use Flash very day to watch great programs on HULU, playoff clips/matches on Foxsports.com, NBA.COM, NHL.COM all running really great with no problems at all.

ESPN, MLB, NHL, Fox News, Netflix, National Geographic and others are already with HTML5. It is probable that those you mention (except for Hulu) are already serving HTML5 to clients that ask for it.

Like what? Name me even one technology that has superseded Flash on the internet for video streaming and games.

Superseded Macromedia technologies mentioned earlier. As far as games, HTML5 can do it, but SVG is the open standard for that kind of thing on the WWW.

That's what companies(and politicians fort that matter) are supposed to do. Do what the people/their costumers demand.

To an extent, yes. But then there's the very wise old quote from Henry Ford, "If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." The only reason people use Flash is because Macromedia was successful in getting the plugin shipped with the major browswers. It's not because it's the best.

Jobs can boycott Flash all he wants, its not gonna stop Android from continuing to grab market share from the iPhone for the foreseeable future, and with it, put Flash on more smartphones than there are iPhones..

I don't know whether you've noticed the topic of this thread, but Android is doing very, very well without Flash. I wish it would stay that way.

127 posted on 05/12/2010 4:57:46 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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