Posted on 05/09/2010 3:54:35 PM PDT by joinedafterattack
Control & Tax Cannabis Booth at the California Democratic Convention 2010. Leave it to the Democrates to have an actual booth at their convention in Los Angeles last month.
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Not everyone.
Still, it can be grown and used without processing or transport across state lines. It’s not deadly or likely to harm most people. The Feds have no place in its regulation.
Yeah, the thing about that is I know what I’m talking about here because of people I know (and where I went to college).
I also know that we are talking about things that were all legal in this country until the advent of modern medicine. I’m not advocating the use of it, however, the well-performing college student that uses pot is no threat to me. The drug dealer who might affiliate with a gang because they can only get it through illegal means could be.
All of this crap used to be in patent medicines and people were able to make legal money off of it, both companies and people running cottage businesses. I can’t see how that would be deleterious to us now, especially considering if we found a way to market a thing like marijuana in this country we could easily dominate the world market and because of who we are, can’t just be pushed around by other countries into not doing it.
If it becomes chronic on their part its because they had underlying psychological problems that made it so and what they are really addicted to is the high and nothing else.
There are plenty of people who do use it just to party on Friday and Saturday Nights and do just fine, and honestly, I’d much rather the police devote their time to actual criminals than people who are simply trying to blow off steam.
Hell on more then the kidneys. I had diverticulitis and had to have a portion of my colon removed in Feb and the docs wont admit it but I believe the pain meds were part of the cause. Those meds will plug you up bag sometimes and it’s bad. Maybe I will take her up on the offer and try marijuana exclusively for a week and see how the pain and the effects on my body is as opposed to the meds. I try to not take a lot of the pain meds but when it’s your lower back, if your in severe pain you really can’t do anything, including sleep.
I won't say it will do what the pain meds do, but it's good to see someone take a more logical approach to it. Should you try it, let me know how it goes. I do know it works wonders for people with bipolar disorder. My brother used to have very serious bouts with it, would smoke a little, and I could literally see the change in his behavior. The whole thing fascinated me to no end.
I can say from the limited use I have had it does ease the pain but I believe the relaxation it brings you helps more with the pain because your not all tensed up.
We agree
thank you for the discussion
I actually think using it for pain control is not abuse, so you won’t get an argument out of me.
Similar to morphine. I don’t think people who use morphine for pain control are doing anything wrong. I think the people who use it to get high are doing wrong.
I believe you when you say a puff or two helps with pain. The pot today is very strong. Actually your saying that backs up my main point! You smoke a whole joint you are wasted!
No, I don’t want the government to make all decisions for me.
The problem with drugs like marijuana is, they don’t just affect the user.
Deliberately making ourselves paranoid, stoned, or mentally useless drags the whole place down. We don’t live in a void.
Of course there is the issue of dependents, and operating machinery, and so forth.
We don’t all live on little islands. We can’t indulge in that level of anti-social behavior without everyone paying a price.
Wow....what a broad brush you paint with.
Where did you buy it?
They need a meth booth. It’s really unfair to just one life-ruining illegal substance but discriminate another one that’s the favorite of millions. Legalize meth, first btw.
And the exact same thing goes on with Booze.
Booze doesn’t just affect the user.
Booze makes you violent and mentally useless and drags the whole place down. How many people don’t go to sporting events, concerts or public parks because of the drunks.
Here’s the data:
In 2008 - 11,773 people died in drunk driving accidents. Just Drunk Driving - .08 BAC about 3 drinks in an hour for a healthy man. Two drinks for a woman.
In 2008 - 0 people died because of Pot.
I’m not saying that marijuana is harmless, far from that. I don’t want kids smoking it at all, I don’t want my airline pilot listening to Reggae the night before the flight. I don’t want the trucker take a puff break.
Is the danger of Pot to adults really worse than Booze? Is the danger of Pot to adults really worth the cost of the War on Drugs? I haven’t smoked pot in almost 15 years and even back then it was only once or twice a year - just not my thing. If they legalize it, I’m not going to start smoking it.
Are you serious about this whole post?
what part is wrong?
If you have to ask....I can’t help you.
I’m the one who doesn’t need help.
“Booze doesn’t just affect the user.”
You are comparing A GLASS OR TWO to DRUNKENNESS.
A couple of glasses of wine a day, a couple of beers after work, does NOT “make you violent, mentally useless, drag the whole place down, ruin sporting events, make drunk driving accident (you are actually allowed a certain level of blood alcohol when driving). . .
DRUNKENNESS does all of the above.
I am not and have never supported DRUNKENNESS.
I have been saying, since the first post I made, that a person can socially drink and not be impaired.
I am all for the stiffest of penalties for DRUNKENNESS.
Original.
Witty.
Pithy.
Hurtful ( not really...but if I was a liberal? Maybe. )
To the point.
Quick.
Touche. ( Not really...)
All I can think of off the top of my peanut like brain.
You think of anymore?
I will not begin smoking pot if it is legalized, either.
However, as I made a very good example of with abortion (at least I thought it was good), when something is made legal, a LOT more of it occurs. When Roe v. Wade passed, abortion rates went through the roof.
“Today’s marijuana is many magnitudes the potency of yester-year.”
It need not all be.
Legal alcohol runs from 151 proof, down to 3.2 beer (1.6 proof).
Knowing that, our everwise political leaders could no doubt conceive a scheme dividing the market for honest law abiding capitalists, as well as street gangs and international smugglers.
Currently most police jurisdictions are more interested in busting people for pot, than in catching illegal immigrants.
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