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To: gthog61

Sometimes I think we need a lot more history majors! If Americans knew more about history they might not be so quick to fall for the leftist line. They would be aware that all these “new ideas” are very old ideas that have been proven wrong time and time again.

Actually I just learned that someone I know casually who is a successful local businessman is...a history major.

Seriously, we need to have history taught in the first twelve years as it used to be. I have yet to meet a recent university graduate, history major or otherwise who knows all the history I learned in public schools. I only remember part of it myself but that is sufficient to surpass the knowledge of history of almost anyone I know who is under forty years of age.

Then there is the matter of knowing how the government is SUPPOSED to work. While still in high school my generation had to learn to write a description of how a bill originated and how it traveled through the house and senate, the process of presidential approval or veto, how a veto could be overridden, and much, much more. We probably knew more about the functioning of congress than most newly elected congressman do now. Most young people now seem to know just about zero concerning that subject.

We also studied the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution from beginning to end. We went over each amendment and discussed what it was intended to accomplish and how it had worked out in practice.

There are some now who say that history is a waste of time, I say look at the condition of this country and realize that the major, some might say the sole cause of this mess is a failure to learn from history.

It is good to have engineers, scientists, physicians but even they need to know the history of the world if they are to be responsible citizens.


30 posted on 05/09/2010 6:40:35 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: RipSawyer
Seriously, we need to have history taught in the first twelve years as it used to be. I have yet to meet a recent university graduate, history major or otherwise who knows all the history I learned in public schools. I only remember part of it myself but that is sufficient to surpass the knowledge of history of almost anyone I know who is under forty years of age.

I completely agree.

One of the goals of the communist party was to get control of the schools. And...Yuri Besmenov, the former KGB, spy warned us about the communist goal to DE-moralize our nation.

That we had put in place in the mid-1800s to early 1900s a system of socialist-funded, socialist-modeled, single payer government schools made this infiltration of the schools, its unions, and central planning committees much easier for the communists. It would have been harder if we educated our nation's children in thousands of single and independent private schools.

It seems to me that conservatives will rally themselves to oppose individual legislation or to oppose truly flagrant Democrat politicians and policies. Conservatives though have NO LONG TERM PLAN TO RE-MORALIZE THE NATION.

If our nation is to survive we must shut down the government schools. Government schools are socialism and socialism can not be reformed. Conservatives must find a way to get our nation's kids into private conservative schools.

39 posted on 05/09/2010 7:50:31 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RipSawyer

There’s only one problem with your proposal; that isn’t how history is taught at the high school or college level.

Once upon a time, students learned about American exceptionalism and the genius of the founding fathers; the Constitution and the electoral process. Unfortunately, much of that has been replaced with “history” that treats all ideas (and ideologies) equally, while downplaying, ignoring or heavily criticizing the contributions of our founders, and the Judeo-Christian priciples that guided them.

If you want an example of how American history has been altered and twisted by political correctness, look at the treatment given to George Washington in any textbook. Then, compare that to the new Washington biography (discussed on Glenn Beck’s program on Friday), or if you prefer, Douglas S. Freeman’s definitive, multi-volume study of our first commander-in-chief. You’ll quickly discover that today’s history courses are nothing but exercises in P.C.

I’m all in favor of history being taught in our schools. But to do a proper job of it, we need a new generation of historians and scholars, who (in turn) would train the history teachers. Unfortunately, both the academy and the public schools have been consumed by political correctness and liberalism. These days, about the only young people who learn “real” American history are the home schoolers and kids fortunate enough to attend a college like Hillsdale.


40 posted on 05/09/2010 9:03:06 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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