[Gay State Conservative]

We need to understand that the “typical” Brit of today is *way* to the left of the “typical” American.Today,that “typical” Brit is *thoroughly* European...in every sense of the word.

[OldDeckHand]

"We need to understand that the “typical” Brit of today is *way* to the left of the “typical” American.'

Absoultely true. I was stationed in the UK for a brief period of time in the 80s - Thatcher's Golden Era. We recently went back, and I couldn't believe how much the country had transformed. London could easily be a city in in SW Asia. It makes Berkeley or the East Village or West Hollywood look tame. It's a completely different city and country.

The north has more "traditional" people, but these are also the same people who are the most rabidly socialist, at least economically.

That's the difference between the UK and the States, IMHO. Many of the areas of the UK that are traditional (like the Midwest in the US), are the most reliably socialist. This of course is antithetical to the US Midwest, where people are far more self-reliant. It's odd.