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To: cherry

by the same token, criticizing her does not imply a full denunciation

i see some posters here...some even the exact same ones...who created a cult of personality around Bush and rode herd over no criticism of him especially about immigration now back here doing exactly the same thing over Palin

whom I support...course I supported Bush too

but I also can and will criticize them when I disagree like now

it would not have hurt for Palin to have just waited it out

all this will sure make for some bloodletting here in the nomination process...that is for certain


44 posted on 05/08/2010 10:50:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: wardaddy

“exact same ones...who created a cult of personality around Bush and rode herd over no criticism of him especially about immigration now back here doing exactly the same thing over Palin”

You couldn’t be further off. Palin and Bush are not in any way similar. I had misgivings about Bush and only supported him to stop Gore. Aside from the Court, he was pretty much an unmitigated disaster. He and his father before him spawned a quarter of a century of big government and they have given rise to Clinton and now Obama.

Palin should not be compared to Bush. She is an insurgent, anti-Establishment like Reagan. And like Reagan she is going to do some things that make ideological purists angry. Reagan picked the lib Schweiker (who turned more conservative later under Reagan’s influence) and he even campaigned for Chuck Percy when Phyllis Schlafly was ready to try to take him out in a primary.

You need to remember your history and not get drawn into this. Palin’s moves so far have made perfect sense, including this one where she is trying to get rid of Boxer and not give the seat to the execrable Tom Campbell.

BTW, I never defended Bush before he got the nomination. I was against him. Reagan, on the other hand, I supported when other conservatives were for Richard Nixon or George Wallace. And I supported him even when I wasn’t sure he was right, because I TRUSTED him. And I trust her in the same way. Trust does not amount to a cult of personality, as you say. In fact that is what the libs used to say about diehard Reaganites. Just because Reagan and Palin are the only two politician in 50 years to HAVE a personality doesn’t mean that their supporters were involved in a cult of personality.


53 posted on 05/08/2010 11:03:37 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: wardaddy
It would not have hurt for Palin to have just waited it out

The same people screaming at her for backing Fiorina would be screaming that she was too afraid to make a tough decision in a crucial Senate primary and thus too afraid to make tough decisions in the Oval Office.

Fiorina's record at Lucent and HP doesn't fill me with confidence in her executive abilities, but she's not running for an executive position. She might well be a better Senator than CEO. She's certainly proven to be more effective and even-tempered a candidate than DeVore.

Sarah Palin has to spend her political capital wisely for 2012 and it won't return dividends wasted on candidates who can't put themselves into serious contention.

55 posted on 05/08/2010 11:07:28 AM PDT by Loyalist (The British have voted and it's a three-way tie for second place!)
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To: wardaddy
it would not have hurt for Palin to have just waited it out

The only wait out available, was to not interfere with Tom Campbell's easy march to victory.

This is not a close race between three candidates, Devore's campaign never took off, and there are only weeks left before the end, Palin jumped in to see if she could boost Fiorina over the man that is openly campaigning as an anti-social conservative and rabid, anti-gunner.

What is interesting, is that while Tom Campbell is strolling to a win, many people are being led to believe that this is a race only involving Fiorina versus Devore. “Tom Campbell is making the case that his unorthodox issue profile makes him the strongest candidate to take on Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer this fall. Campbell supports abortion rights and gay marriage, and argues that Boxer’s greatest asset against either of his two Republican opponents, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, would be the state’s decidedly un-conservative social views. “She has always been able to move the debate over to the social issues. She will not be able to do that against me,” Campbell told POLITICO.”

91 posted on 05/08/2010 1:01:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: wardaddy
it would not have hurt for Palin to have just waited it out

The only wait out available, was to not interfere with Tom Campbell's easy march to victory.

This is not a close race between three candidates, Devore's campaign never took off, and there are only weeks left before the end, Palin jumped in to see if she could boost Fiorina over the man that is openly campaigning as an anti-social conservative and rabid, anti-gunner.

What is interesting, is that while Tom Campbell is strolling to a win, many people are being led to believe that this is a race only involving Fiorina versus Devore.

“Tom Campbell is making the case that his unorthodox issue profile makes him the strongest candidate to take on Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer this fall.

Campbell supports abortion rights and gay marriage, and argues that Boxer’s greatest asset against either of his two Republican opponents, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, would be the state’s decidedly un-conservative social views.

“She has always been able to move the debate over to the social issues. She will not be able to do that against me,” Campbell told POLITICO.”

92 posted on 05/08/2010 1:01:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: wardaddy
I see some posters here...some even the exact same ones...who created a cult of personality around Bush and rode herd over no criticism of him especially about immigration now back here doing exactly the same thing over Palin

Same tactics, same people plus or minus, same MO, same strategy...

Believe me, this is not been lost on those that are still capable of critical thought.

189 posted on 05/08/2010 9:03:13 PM PDT by dragnet2
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