Forsaken by man, yes. So this is a case of willful ignorance? You give up your faith in God because of malicious man? Do you realize there's EVIL in this world not because God condones it, but man's inherit selfishness?
Do you also question the "veracity" of free will?
I really love it how atheist tout logic and reason, but are so readily and easily duped by an illogical lie.
I’m sure you can understand why that would leave me feeling a little forsaken, not unlike the countless thousands that suffered the same fate during the inquisition.
“Forsaken by man, yes.”
The countless tortured and murdered in horrific ways suffered at the hands of men claiming to have the authority of god.
“So this is a case of willful ignorance? You give up your faith in God because of malicious man?”
Nope, couldn’t be more wrong. I am a deeply loved member of a very conservative and devout christian family, i went to a fantastic catholic private school from which I still have christian friends 30 years. If you want to know why I gave up my faith just ask.
“Do you realize there’s EVIL in this world not because God condones it, but man’s inherit selfishness?”
Of course I know of the evil in the world, for which god (let’s assume that he actually exists for a moment) must be totally accountable. If god is truly omnipotent, all knowing, all powerful, outside of time, and the creator of everything then he is the creator of all the goo in the universe, the creator of heaven, the creator of the angels... but also the creator of all that is evil, the creator of the devil, and the creator of all evil acts perpetrated by all evil people. If he is not then he is not the creator of *everything*..... I’d love to talk to you some more about this but we’ll get way off the thread topic.
“Do you also question the “veracity” of free will?”
As an atheist, I don’t.
“I really love it how atheist tout logic and reason, but are so readily and easily duped by an illogical lie.”
I have told no lies. I associate with my FRiends here on the understanding that we respect each other’s freedom to chose what we believe (or not believe) even if we disagree. You can be sure that this is as honest as it gets.