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To: DrC; bushpilot1; Red Steel; El Gato; LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; pissant; Fred Nerks; hoosiermama; ...
"From an earlier edition, there’s a useful footnote referencing a book by Thach and another by Farrand that evidently provide further detail on the source of the NBC clause:
http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=p1o_AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA325&img=1&pgis=1&dq=natural-born&sig=ACfU3U3ty8VF5MKgQlUD8IOpUDO3T6rcOQ&edge=1

Thus, it’s easily possible Corwin relied on these authorities rather than Vattel directly."

The creation of the presidency, 1775-1789; a study in constitutional history by Charles Coleman Thach

http://www.archive.org/stream/creationofpresid00thac#page/n311/mode/2up/search/natural

Basically states that the requirement for a "Natural Born Citizen" most likely came from Jay's suggestion to Washington.

85 posted on 05/10/2010 4:54:22 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Thach is referenced 3 times in this piece from Cornell law:

"ARTICLE II
EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT
NATURE AND SCOPE OF PRESIDENTIAL POWER

Creation of the Presidency"

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art2frag1_user.html

86 posted on 05/10/2010 5:13:25 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; BP2; El Gato

http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=0w-ufigE4nUC&pg=PA109&lpg=PA109&dq=Dickinson,+Changing+concepts+and+1932&source=bl&ots=tTekHDsG7Z&sig=a9uXDJBkSDpK3CeF7pXNhd16E8k&hl=en&ei=1rLoS4nKA5KzrAfjhcDsCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=De%20Vattel&f=false

“the law of nations was believed by the framers to be a legitimate part of the common law and self executing in the sense that it was unnecssary for congress to pass further legislation”

very legalize..cannot understand..cites vattel several times..


87 posted on 05/10/2010 7:04:03 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid

http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=umued5KGUSAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Stephane+Beaulac++The+Power+of+Language&hl=en&source=gbs_similarbooks_s&cad=1#v=snippet&q=Vattel%20natural&f=false


88 posted on 05/10/2010 8:25:29 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid

“Nations are regarded as individual free persons living in a state of nature.

For they consist of a multitude of men united into a state. Therefore since states are regarded as individual free persons living in a state of nature, nations also must be regarded in

relation to each other as individual free persons living in a state of nature.”


92 posted on 05/11/2010 1:00:42 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid; BP2; STARWISE; Fred Nerks; El Gato
Photobucket Photobucket Thomas Jefferson Letter to John Garland Jefferson suggesting he study Vattel..date of letter is 11 June 1790. Virginia law books: essays and bibliographies By William Hamilton Bryson page 339
99 posted on 05/11/2010 4:38:16 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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