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The Gun Lobby’s Long Shadow
New York Times ^ | May 7, 2010

Posted on 05/07/2010 4:43:48 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

While the rest of the nation comes to grips with fresh concerns about terrorism, domestic and foreign, Congress is wrapped up in the peculiar obsessions of the gun lobby — most of which are certain to make Americans less safe in their homes and on the streets.

Congress, for example, is cowering before the gun lobby insistence that even terrorist suspects who are placed on the “no-fly list” must not be denied the right to buy and bear arms. Suspects on that list purchased more than 1,100 weapons in the last six years, but Congress has never summoned the gumption to stop this trade in the name of public safety and political sanity.

Legislation to close this glaring threat continues to languish with little promise of enactment because a bipartisan mass of lawmakers fear retribution by the gun lobby’s campaign machine. Firsthand pleas this week from New York City’s mayor and police commissioner — testifying after the attempted Times Square bombing attributed to a suspect who was also carrying a legally obtained gun — showed no sign of budging a timorous Congress.

It is a sign of the gun lobby’s growing confidence that if feels free to keep up the pressure, public and private, after the near-disaster in New York. Normally, the lobby goes quiet for a decent interval after a particularly heinous crime occurs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 05/07/2010 4:43:48 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First
So are we to believe from the NYT that last week America was in grave danger from the suspect's legally-owned handgun?

Writers like this should remind us that our freedoms are ever in danger from emotional opportunists.

2 posted on 05/07/2010 4:47:20 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Second Amendment First
....the peculiar obsessions of the gun lobby -- most of which are certain to make Americans less safe in their homes and on the streets.

There was no need to read the rest of the article after seeing that statement. It represents a "belief" that has been PROVEN unequivocally false in state after state after commonwealth.

3 posted on 05/07/2010 4:47:47 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Second Amendment First

The NY Times opposed wiretapping international phone calls of those on the terror watch list, but wholeheartedly endorses revoking the right to posess a firearm.

WE WILL EXPOSE YOUR HYPOCRISY!!!!


4 posted on 05/07/2010 4:48:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Second Amendment First

...I don’t believe that the NRA is in favor of allowing “no-fly list” people to buy guns.


5 posted on 05/07/2010 4:50:56 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Erik Latranyi

NYT is headed the same direction as Newsweek.


6 posted on 05/07/2010 4:51:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Second Amendment First

So, Mr. NYTimes Reporter, if you’re on the do-not-fly list, should we strip you of your right to appear in the paper, with no adjudication?


7 posted on 05/07/2010 4:55:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Isn’t it weird how the NYTimes thinks? Gun control is their issue. When in fact the terrorist was trying to bomb Times Square, all these useful idiots see is the gun.

It would be nice if the presidents terror fighting policy wasn’t based on stupid bombers, because one day, even the dumbest gets it right.

And what’s the Times obsession with the American people being armed.


8 posted on 05/07/2010 4:56:23 AM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Second Amendment First

And the New York Times remains obsessed with denying citizens the right to defend themselves.


9 posted on 05/07/2010 4:56:31 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Gunphobes always do this: No matter how violence is sourced, ban guns. This time, the attempted bombing is a call to ban guns.

I actually remember *uck Schumer calling for sweeping gun bans after a high profile knife attack in the early ninties.

It’s not safety they seek. It’s powerlessness and control, so socialism and tyranny cannot be resisted.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 5:00:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: STONEWALLS

They are... and so am I.

The “No Fly List” is prepared and maintained by unelected government bureaucrats; WITHOUT due process of law.

“We the People” must not lose allow our government to infringe on a person’s constitutional rights simply because a U.S. government employee “thinks” that person belongs on a certain list. Down THAT road leads true tyranny and the end of our constitution.

There IS no specific “right to fly on an airliner” recognized in our constitution. There IS a “right to keep and bear arms”.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 5:01:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: STONEWALLS

They damn well better be. The “no-fly” list is arbitrary at best.


12 posted on 05/07/2010 5:02:00 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: Second Amendment First
Congress, for example, is cowering before the gun lobby insistence that even terrorist suspects who are placed on the “no-fly list” must not be denied the right to buy and bear arms.

Silly Congress. If a terrorist is armed and busy about being a terrorist, then an armed Citizen can shoot them. That's homeland security. (As opposed to removing them from the no-fly list, like the suspect in the Times Square attempt had been.)

13 posted on 05/07/2010 5:02:06 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: WayneS

I should caveat my comment by adding this minor modification:

“They are - as long as the person is otherwise legally allowed to buy a gun... and so am I.”


14 posted on 05/07/2010 5:03:27 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: STONEWALLS
"...I don’t believe that the NRA is in favor of allowing “no-fly list” people to buy guns."

They had damned well BETTER be. I've got no problem with such a provision for NON-CITIZENS (those here on visa, or legal residents), but you simply do NOT remove a citizens rights "on suspicion".

15 posted on 05/07/2010 5:04:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: WayneS

Oh, and the word “lose” does not belong in the second sentence.


16 posted on 05/07/2010 5:04:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Second Amendment First

Bullsh*t screed from the Marxists yelp of record, the once great New York Times - now worth little more than birdcage liner.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 5:08:29 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Second Amendment First
...the peculiar obsessions of the gun lobby — most of which are certain to make Americans less safe in their homes and on the streets.

Completely false premise.

Say you want to make an area or event safe or safer. That is "secure" it. What is the first thing you do? Bring in security, of course. That's right, to make an event safer, you add people with firearms to it. I know that simple fact makes most liberals' heads want to explode but it is the truth. Adding trained, heck, just responsible, armed non-criminals to something makes it safer.

So the whole premise of this tool's rant is a falsehood. Responsible, armed citizenry makes for a safer neighborhood. They (the left) {expletive}-well know it, they just can't bring themselves to admit it. They want the citizens dependent upon and subservient to big government. I'd rather be self-reliant and trust my neighbors.

18 posted on 05/07/2010 5:14:51 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Ban propane tanks - the weapons of choice of terrorists!


19 posted on 05/07/2010 5:24:27 AM PDT by njslim
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To: Second Amendment First

“,,,the gun lobby insistence that even terrorist suspects who are placed on the “no-fly list” must not be denied the right to buy and bear arms.”

YOU let them into the country in the first place and then you want to point to them as a danger?


20 posted on 05/07/2010 5:29:42 AM PDT by TalBlack
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