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To: Logic n' Reason

The “they” is indicative of the founders and those who supported the new creation of the United States and the culture of the society in which everyone lived... and ... as is true in all societies, not every last single person believe in a particular cultural distinctive, like that... but — it was the cultural distinctive, the founding fathers operated on the basis of that understanding and wrote accordingly, and it was recognized across the board, and it is a fact that the U.S. was founded on the principles and foundation and belief from Christianity, just like Sarah Palin talks about (as we see on the news)... whether you want to believe that or not.

It’s also apparent that the vast numbers that support Sarah Palin (and hear those same kinds of statements from her, on this issue) also have that same understanding for this country and for the founding fathers and for the culture in which they lived.

I’m afraid you’re not going to re-write “history” for them and/or for Sarah Palin. And I’m betting she’s going to be “running” on that very same idea that you don’t seem to like ... :-)

And..., that’s so common among those today, who live in a different culture where God is redefined as something other than the Creator God of the Bible — as a “force” or an inanimate process of chance, or all sorts of other ideas — to try and redefine our founding fathers and their understanding and belief as something akin to the wide-range of unrecognizable beliefs today (unrecognizable to any back then...).


143 posted on 05/07/2010 12:04:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
". . . the U.S. was founded on the principles and foundation and belief from Christianity, just like Sarah Palin talks about (as we see on the news)... whether you want to believe that or not."

Whoa....hold your horses there pardner!

In our little discussion, never once have I implied or stated directly that I "did not believe" that the US was founded on the principles of christianity.

My beliefs on this matter are of no import; history and fact are; therefore, you are correct.

That said, the writers/editors of the Declaration did use the term "Creator"...and ONLY the term Creator. You see, while christians all, they had differing beliefs as to exactly what to believe.....as do present day "born again-ers", Baptists, Lutherans, Protestants, Catholics, etc.

One never has to "re-write" history; it is already there. And I defy you (or S. Palin, tho I'm certain she has far more important things to do) to provide one single example from any of the published papers of the writers/editors of the Declaration using your term of "Creator God".

Moreover, whether or not I "like the idea" of the writers/editors of the Declaration as christian, is again of no import. What is true is true.

However, you must be careful to separate fact from belief; something I've noticed that some christians have a very difficult time in doing.

146 posted on 05/07/2010 12:34:29 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Buzzard's gotta eat; same as worms.)
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