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My son is learning "politically correct" slave history in school, you know, all the white mans fault.

I had him read this.

He never knew there were black slave owners, never knew slave were very expensive and generally treated well by white owners and terrible by black owners.

This needs to be forwarded.

1 posted on 05/05/2010 4:55:06 PM PDT by edcoil
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just look at how wickedly blacks treat one another today. it’s not hard to imagine.


2 posted on 05/05/2010 4:56:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("gentle when stroked, fierce when provoked")
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They are congressman, newsconveyors, and landlords now.
3 posted on 05/05/2010 4:58:55 PM PDT by allmost
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More information is a good thing.

But just remember that slavery is DNC history. Slave economics, Jim Crow race repression, lynch mobs, fire hoses, church bombings, the whole lot of it. If you’re a Republican you should never put yourself in a position of defending or explaining away Democrat history. Let them own it. Let them defend it, or explain it, or apologize for it, or whatever they feel moved to do about it.

They try every chance they get to re-write history, and if I was a Democrat, I would too.


4 posted on 05/05/2010 5:02:37 PM PDT by marron
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Skip Gates had a column regarding the black participation in the slave trade in the WSJ. It was actually very good, except for the last part which included wide-eyed fawning over Obama.


5 posted on 05/05/2010 5:03:54 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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Tell him that there were black soldiers in the Confederate Army also.


6 posted on 05/05/2010 5:05:38 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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Have your son research the case of Anthony Johnson and John Casor.

In 1654, Casor had the honor of being the first black slave in the colonies. Prior to that point, blacks were brought over as indentured servants and became free men after 7 years of service. Casor's owner, Anthony Johnson, filed suit to have Casor declared a slave for life. Johnson won his suit and black slavery was established in Virginia.

Anthony Johnson was himself black.

7 posted on 05/05/2010 5:08:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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>>>>Yet he concluded that black slaves were immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially and physically

That is the same exact argument that leftists often used to defend the Soviet Union during the Cold War. They said that the average quality of life of Russians under communism, was higher than it was under the Tsars.

They pointed out that Russians under Brezhnev, were better educated, had better health care, and were better fed, than under the Tsars. And they had the life expectancy statistics to make their case. Would you argue that communism was good for Russians?

It is better to be poor and free, than to be well-fed and in slavery.


8 posted on 05/05/2010 5:09:21 PM PDT by pinochet
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The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).

This is the biggest lie told about slavery. Only the head of household owned slaves. Families had 5 or 6 kids so many times more people lived with slaves than "owned" slaves. My dad did lots of work on our family tree - Texas - Louisiana - Florida - Georgia, and it is plain to see from the census that about 1 house in 4 had slaves.

My Mouton family in Louisiana was among the biggest holders so I'm not excusing it but this is a fine example of how to lie by telling part of the truth.

9 posted on 05/05/2010 5:16:45 PM PDT by TWfromTEXAS (Life is the one choice that pro choicers will not support.)
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Black slave owners, voluntary black confederate soldiers, etc.

Blacks that sold other blacks into slavery in the old country (Africa). Blacks for thousands of years killing other tribes of blacks.

Quite a long history of black on black crime.


10 posted on 05/05/2010 5:17:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Thanks for posting this. Had been wondering about the percentage of slave owners - more info here than I knew to look for.


12 posted on 05/05/2010 5:20:04 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Tag line deleted...don't want to incite violence...)
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I was taught in school that white men sailed to Africa and caught slaves in what was essentially a large butterfly net. And yes, I'm serious.

14 posted on 05/05/2010 5:22:05 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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What about the slave sellers in Kenya?


15 posted on 05/05/2010 5:23:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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There were certainly some free black men that owned slaves but I would also point out that quite a few of those were actually free black men who "purchased" their wives who happened to be slaves. Unless they went the extra effort to have them legally emancipated, they were owned by their husbands and any children that were born from that union were also considered slaves.

The idea that there were free black business men (planters, etc) who owned slaves is difficult for many to come to terms with, but it is true that they existed. However, most of the free black men who owned slaves actually owned their immediate family members that they were able to purchase out of slavery. There were also some church ministers that were able to purchase some of their members out of slavery.

17 posted on 05/05/2010 5:25:49 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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There is also a book out there called “Black Masters” on this topic.


20 posted on 05/05/2010 5:33:39 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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IIRC, THere were 600 black slave owners in the state of Maryland at the outbreak of Civil war (or War between the States.

BFD, so tyranny is an equal opportunity oppressor.


22 posted on 05/05/2010 5:38:40 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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Reparations for slavery?

When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?

When a black man was Secretary of State??

When a black woman was Secretary of State?

When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??

When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????

When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, Bill’s either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)

And, how about Liberation Theology?

Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??

Give me a break!!

Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate. And if he ever runs again, I would probably support him again.

I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.

Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slavery now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)

The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!

Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by Muslim slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.

And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by muslims) and Asia today.

95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?

And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave,” depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here are headed into a modern form off that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.

The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90

Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a telling of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!

At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”

And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (reupped twice) and fought on the Union side at Chickamauga, Vicksburg, Jackson then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great-great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.

Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!
Dick Bachert


23 posted on 05/05/2010 5:42:14 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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Reparations for slavery?

When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?

When a black man was Secretary of State??

When a black woman was Secretary of State?

When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??

When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????

When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, Bill’s either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)

And, how about Liberation Theology?

Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??

Give me a break!!

Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate. And if he ever runs again, I would probably support him again.

I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.

Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slavery now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)

The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!

Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by Muslim slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.

And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by muslims) and Asia today.

95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?

And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave,” depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here are headed into a modern form off that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.

The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90

Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a telling of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!

At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”

And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (reupped twice) and fought on the Union side at Chickamauga, Vicksburg, Jackson then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great-great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.

Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!
Dick Bachert


25 posted on 05/05/2010 5:47:11 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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In one of many Louisiana plantations we visted, one said some of it’s slaves owned businesses in New Orleans that allowed them to leave the plantation and see about them.


26 posted on 05/05/2010 6:01:17 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT: BLACK SLAVEOWNERS
28 posted on 05/05/2010 6:04:13 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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It’s a good thing when the young learn the truth,,,

I remember well when my Gra`Ma told me about where and why

my kin fought in the “War of Northern Aggression”,,,

Yes,,,They saved the farm...


29 posted on 05/05/2010 6:18:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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