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Somali pirates seize Russian tanker
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 5/5/10 | AFP

Posted on 05/05/2010 9:01:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: 1rudeboy; null and void

Clearly, the 2006 kidnappers were too young to have learned the lesson of the ‘80s.


61 posted on 05/05/2010 10:15:44 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: Ready4Freddy; BlueLancer
Yeah. The lesson needs to be a bit more memorable BlueLancer had the right idea...
62 posted on 05/05/2010 10:20:06 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 468 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Billthedrill
We know how to stop piracy. Anyone who has ever read a book on maritime history knows how it's done. Whether we choose to do so or not depends only on how much our collective conscience will bother us if we do opt to punish the havens. My part of that conscience is just fine with it but nobody asks me...

Piracy is an industry, which does not operate in a vacuum. They need port facilities and repair facilities for their boats. The pirates have homes. They contribute to the local economy. The whole village is the pirate support infrastructure.

The pirates are effectively operating in a state of war against the rest of the world. The only effective treatment would be for the rest of the world to treat the Somali coastline like it would have treated enemy bases during WW2. Namely, carpet bomb any village from which pirates operate.

63 posted on 05/05/2010 10:37:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Robe

Yes.


64 posted on 05/05/2010 10:51:31 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Celerity

No survivors.


65 posted on 05/05/2010 11:52:04 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: Ready4Freddy

Well, then . . . that goes to the effectiveness of the message, yes? Perhaps this Rambo-thing has its limits. Maybe even with Somali pirates.


66 posted on 05/05/2010 2:19:51 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: PapaBear3625
Namely, carpet bomb any village from which pirates operate.

Precisely. There should be no limit to how many innocent civilians we kill. They all have flies up their noses, anyway. Eff 'em, they're not human.

67 posted on 05/05/2010 2:21:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: null and void
The lesson, sadly, seems to need repeating periodically. In this case Russian diplomats were off limits for 24 years.

Face it, you have no idea how long Russian diplomats were "off limits." Unless you keep track of Russian diplomats, that is.

68 posted on 05/05/2010 2:23:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Precisely. There should be no limit to how many innocent civilians we kill. They all have flies up their noses, anyway. Eff 'em, they're not human.

Our aversion to any possibility of harming enemy "civilians" is what guarantees we cannot win.

The last war we thoroughly won, World War 2, saw us bombing entire enemy cities into rubble. We incinerated Dresden and Tokyo. We nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We killed hundreds of thousands of women and children. And we did not delude ourselves that this is what we were doing.

We did what we needed to do to win.

69 posted on 05/05/2010 3:54:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Perhaps this Rambo-thing has its limits. Maybe even with Somali pirates.

No Rambo needed, just kill them. Worth a try, sending them to NYC for indictment and 3 hots and a cot isn't working.

70 posted on 05/05/2010 4:35:15 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: NormsRevenge

Moscow -— send in the Speznatz for a Wet Mission.


71 posted on 05/05/2010 5:13:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PapaBear3625; Ready4Freddy
Our aversion to any possibility of harming enemy "civilians" is what guarantees we cannot win.

Looks like you formed your conclusion and worked your way backwards. There's a more efficient and cost-effective way to solve the problem: place armed guards (i.e., mercenaries) on ships transiting the problem area, with agreement between shipping companies to rotate them on-and-off. Companies agreeing to the program receive the benefit of support provided by the various nations participating in CTF-151. Companies that do not--"no pay, no play."

The mercenaries operate by Ready4Freddy's rules, really, a no brainer (no offense intended). There's no need to send in the B-52's, like we're all watching Apocalypse Now. Killing a bunch of skinny women and kids with flies up their noses is pointless (and expensive), despite PapaBear's need to prove a social point to himself.

72 posted on 05/08/2010 5:38:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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