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To: Christian_Capitalist
You are wasting electrons and your precious time trying to get this question answered by the AIP crowd and the Keyes-bots.

I've been there, I know.

The left wing has been whining for decades that conservatives want to impose a Christian theocracy in America. I now believe that at least in the case of a few (less than ten of the whole user base) Freepers, that is true.

191 posted on 05/06/2010 6:33:01 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: Notary Sojac; Springfield Reformer; Steve Schulin; Gelato
The left wing has been whining for decades that conservatives want to impose a Christian theocracy in America. I now believe that...that is true.

This, of course, is the core, where those who call themselves liberals, and those who call themselves libertarians, meet. Probe deeply enough and this is always what one finds. It it in the rejection of the most fundamental and indispensable premise of America.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."

And, of course, you're just as dead wrong as those who call themselves liberals.

For there is nothing to impose. As Ben Franklin said at the Constitutional Convention, "God governs in the affairs of men," already - always has - no matter what you or I think or believe about it. There's nothing to "impose," by me or anyone. The only question left is whether we will conform ourselves as a nation to His standard of right - as expressed in the Natural Law - and prosper, or whether we will choose to deny our own nature and the nature of the creation, and destroy ourselves...individually and as a nation.

192 posted on 05/06/2010 7:08:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("In DC, it's about politics. In Arizona, it's about survival." -- Ralph Peters)
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To: Notary Sojac; EternalVigilance
You are wasting electrons and your precious time trying to get this question answered by the AIP crowd and the Keyes-bots. I've been there, I know. The left wing has been whining for decades that conservatives want to impose a Christian theocracy in America. I now believe that at least in the case of a few (less than ten of the whole user base) Freepers, that is true.

I just wish that people would have what's called "The Courage of their Convictions".

It means that if the Logic of your Argument compels you to an extreme, perhaps unpopular conclusion -- then you either re-examine your Argument; or, if you still believe your original Argument to be correct, then you take it all the way to its logical extreme, you declare it, and you stand by it.

Let's take the subject of Abortion, as an example:

Now that's not a "popular" position for me to take.
Indeed, as I just pointed out, it may not even be a "necessary" position for me to take, given that historically the States were able to prohibit abortion quite effectively by just going after the Abortionists themselves.
But I understand that my position, if taken to its logical extreme, would necessitate prosecuting the woman also -- if that's what it takes to effectively prohibit abortion. And, since that's the ultimate conclusion to which the Logic of my Argument compels me, I'm willing to take that position and stand by it, if that what it takes.

Likewise, if EV believes that any States which fail to outlaw abortion, should be subject to Military Invasion by the Federal Government -- then he should just say, "States which fail to outlaw abortion should be subject to Military Invasion by the Federal Government". Stake out your position, and stand by it, if that's what you believe.

It's just a matter of having The Courage of your Convictions, that's all.

194 posted on 05/06/2010 7:39:00 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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