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To: Christian_Capitalist
If I say that "Rape is a State legal matter", that does NOT mean that I think that any State should legalize Rape.

It isn't a matter of "should they?" It is a question of "can they?" And the answer to that question under our Constitution is simply "NO WAY!"

Under our form of government EVERY officer of government, at EVERY level of government, in EVERY branch, has a sworn obligation to protect and defend the unalienable rights to life, liberty and private property of EVERY person.

148 posted on 05/04/2010 3:50:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("In DC, it's about politics. In Arizona, it's about survival." -- Ralph Peters)
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To: EternalVigilance

No. You are as wrong as anyone can be. Go look in the mirror and introduce yourself to the one person MOST responsible for protecting YOUR rights. And your family’s rights, should you have one. True, we hire police, etc., but in the final analysis, WE, each of us, is responsible for our own protection-— and the protection of those around us, the innocent and helpless in particular. But it is and can be ONLY at the state and local level that the murder of the pre-born can legitimately be outlawed and prosecuted. Because We, the People, did NOT vest FedGov with that sort of authority, period, end of story. It is only at the State level that every crime save Treason, Piracy and Counterfeiting, is charged and prosecuted. You may WISH it otherwise, but it is NOT SO. Government, as intended by the Founders, was to be kept as LOCAL as possible, and that for a reason: OUR CONTROL OVER GOVERNMENT, NOT its control over US.

With Congress declaring that life begins at conception and forbidding the Courts to look at that matter, they would have gone as far as they can legitimately go. Then it is up to the States to ensure that abortion is defined as murder and properly prosecuted. And THAT is where your efforts should be concentrated. Sorry to rain on your parade, but that’s the way it was set up and that’s the way it must be maintained. Thinking otherwise and looking to FedGov for solutions to all our problems is what got us into this mess to begin with.


149 posted on 05/04/2010 10:35:20 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: EternalVigilance; dcwusmc
It isn't a matter of "should they?" It is a question of "can they?" And the answer to that question under our Constitution is simply "NO WAY!"

Common-Law Civil Harms are legislated by the States. Suppose that the State Legislature of Arkansas were to vote to abolish their State laws against Rape. (you can almost hear Bill Clinton rejoicing). What, precisely, should the Federal Government DO about it?

This is the question which you refuse to answer: If a State Legislature DOES abolish its Laws against some form of Civil Harm (Rape, or Abortion, or what have you), what precisely is the Federal Government supposed to DO about it, according to the Constitution?

Under our form of government EVERY officer of government, at EVERY level of government, in EVERY branch, has a sworn obligation to protect and defend the unalienable rights to life, liberty and private property of EVERY person.

I repeat: If a State Legislature DOES abolish its Laws against some form of Civil Harm (Rape, or Abortion, or what have you), what precisely is the Federal Government supposed to DO about it, according to the Constitution?

Please answer the question.

155 posted on 05/05/2010 12:03:31 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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