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Missing the train: Why America still needs Amtrak
Kuwait Times ^ | May 03, 2010 | MCT

Posted on 05/03/2010 6:06:28 AM PDT by Willie Green

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1 posted on 05/03/2010 6:06:28 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

You have to go to Kuwait to find people who think America needs long haul passenger rail clogging up the freightlines.


2 posted on 05/03/2010 6:12:44 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Willie Green
What is the reason we need to spend “tens of billions” on trains? The article title implies it gives reasons, but I must have missed it.
3 posted on 05/03/2010 6:13:34 AM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: Willie Green
Our community is served by the Pennsylvanian which has two runs daily in each direction between Pittsburg and New York. Ridership is increasing (we used to have only one train daily) and fares are reasonable. Even on-time performance isn't too bad-- usually within 30 minutes. My daughter used it regularly to visit us when she was a nanny in New Jersey.

Main complaint was even two trains per day made it less convenient and almost as expensive as driving.

4 posted on 05/03/2010 6:13:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Willie Green
President Barack Obama has pledged the most significant rail infrastructure investment in decades.

Excellent. I was just thinking this morning that government spending is dipping to dangerously low levels. It's good to see something is being done about the problem.

(I don't need to put a /sarc tag here, do I?)

5 posted on 05/03/2010 6:14:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Willie Green; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

Another apologia for socialist control. Sorry Willie, NO SALE!


6 posted on 05/03/2010 6:15:30 AM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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In order to do better and become more competition and show a profit, AMTRAK needs to do the following:

1. Open up more routes and go to more places. Reopen the Las Vegas run from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and Orange County.

2. Raise ticket prices to actually reflect operating costs just as colleges and universities are doing.

3. Streamline operations and cut and eliminate all the bloat and waste.


7 posted on 05/03/2010 6:17:36 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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I would love to see a revival in passenger service but am not optimistic about its reality given everyone’s impatience to get to their destination as quickly as possible.


8 posted on 05/03/2010 6:18:57 AM PDT by NCjim ("You can't pick up a turd by the clean end", Bob Lonsberry on Obamacare)
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...one thing the article doesn’t mention is the RR advantage in a blizzard....it doesn’t take but a few flakes of snow to screw up the D.C.Beltway or the New Jersey Turnpike...however, the Amtrack Metroliner will get you to New York when the roads are at a standstill.


9 posted on 05/03/2010 6:19:45 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Yeah the romance of taking your kids on a 3 day train trip that would take 8 hrs by flight.

Prayf or America


10 posted on 05/03/2010 6:24:27 AM PDT by bray (Keep the communism, I want Freedom!)
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To: STONEWALLS

If the roads are at a standstill, how would you get to the station to board a train and once at the of your trip how would you get from the train to your final destination? Thanks, but no thanks. I’d rather be stuck at home than at a train station.


11 posted on 05/03/2010 6:25:37 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: exDemMom
(I don't need to put a /sarc tag here, do I?)

Well there are always a few disruptive flying monkeys and trolls who will deliberately take your comments out of context, but I think most reasonable people will understand that your comment was intellectually superficial and a lame attempt at humor.

12 posted on 05/03/2010 6:26:07 AM PDT by Willie Green ("You can observe a lot just by watching.")
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To: Ev Reeman

4. Be self sustaining in 5 years or bust.


13 posted on 05/03/2010 6:28:34 AM PDT by wita
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...you take the subway to Penn Station...then the Metroliner to BWI-Airport Amtrack station...then put your truck in 4x4 and drive a back road 10 minutes home...that’s how I made it home when the Airports and I-95 were closed by a blizzard.


14 posted on 05/03/2010 6:34:40 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Willie Green

I live in the California Central Valley. There are trains that go from Sacramento to San Diego. We often visit San Diego and it would consider taking a train and then renting a car. However, the train does not go all the way to San Diego (the last time I checked) it stops on this side of the Grape Vine and they put the passengers on buses to go over the Grape Vine and then put them back on trains for the remainder of the trip. That is a sort of deal killer for me.

Add to that their schedules are not very good and then the expense, it is just so much easier for me to drive my family to San Diego then take a train.

When they get serious about passenger service I will consider taking the train again.


15 posted on 05/03/2010 6:35:11 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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Why America still needs Amtrak

Because driving a car at my own liesure, and stopping where I want to, when I want to is just too convenient?

16 posted on 05/03/2010 6:36:21 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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“2. Raise ticket prices to actually reflect operating costs just as colleges and universities are doing.”

They are already a great deal more expensive than air or bus travel. Time to shoot the iron horse, its got a broken leg.

I recently needed to travel from the OKC metro to Western Colorado on less than a week's notice. Greyhound was $137, and about 48 hours travel time. Delta was $238, and four hours, and Amtrack was $394, and 56 hours. I drove back for about $138 in gas, and 16 hours.

17 posted on 05/03/2010 6:37:43 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Ev Reeman

“Open up more routes and go to more places. Reopen the Las Vegas run from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and Orange County.”

Also, cross-country, between L.A. and Florida. After Katrina, a large portion of tracks was closed. Freight trains have been running for a couple years, but not Amtrak (unless within the last few months). LA to New Orleans is as far as it goes I called to find out when there would be full service and was told Amtrak/U.S. is waiting for local town to chip in some bucks. I admit, I don’t get the relationship among Amtrak, the Feds, local government.


18 posted on 05/03/2010 6:40:59 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: Willie Green
Too bad the author couldn't have included just a mention of why the Super Chief no longer rides the rails. Between the courts jacking up liability costs to force Santa Fe out of the passenger business, and the lousy service that Amtrak provided that drove the railroad to demand they drop the name, “’twas Uncle Sam killed the beast.”

Who Killed the Super Chief?

19 posted on 05/03/2010 6:41:23 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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I can get to my nearest Amtrack station/stop with only a three and a half hour drive.
20 posted on 05/03/2010 6:44:15 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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