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To: neverdem; Alamo-Girl; Quix; metmom; hosepipe
Given this remarkably messy history, the problem with reparations may not be so much whether they are a good idea or deciding who would get them; the larger question just might be from whom they would be extracted.

So just what does Professor Gates want President Obama to do — who "favors reparations in theory?"

Thomas Sowell — in Intellectuals and Society — sheds some much needed light on slavery and reparations issues:

Slavery has been a pervasive evil around the world for thousands of years but confusing morality with causation — and seeking a localization of evil — has led to the history of slavery being stood on its head throughout our educational system, as well as in the media and by the intelligentsia in general. Thus slavery has been depicted as if it were a peculiarity of white people against black people in the United States, or in Western societies. No one dreams of demanding reparations from North Africans for all the Europeans brought there as slaves by Barbary Coast pirates, even though these European slaves greatly outnumbered the African slaves brought to the United States and to the thirteen colonies from which it was formed.

Because the West has not been immune to the evils, errors and shortcomings of the human race around the world, the intelligentsia have been able to document these failings in a way that makes them look like peculiarities of "our society." In the case of slavery, what was peculiar about the West was that it was the first civilization to turn against slavery, beginning in the eighteenth century, and that it destroyed slavery around the world, beginning in the nineteenth century, not only within its own societies but also in non-Western societies it controlled, influenced or threatened. Yet there is virtually no interest among today's intelligentsia in how a worldwide phenomenon was ended after a thousand years, for it did not simply die out of its own accord, but was forcibly suppressed by the West in campaigns around the world that lasted for more than a century, often over the bitter opposition of Africans, Asians, and others who wanted slavery preserved. But that story seldom makes it through the filters.

What is highlighted is that the West had slavery, as if that was peculiar to the West. What is also highlighted is that black people were enslaved by white people in the West. But, even in the West, white people were enslaved by other white people for centuries before the first African was brought to the Western Hemisphere in chains. The very fact that these Africans were called "slaves" reflected the fact that a white group which had been enslaved for centuries before were Slavs — since the word for slave was derived from the name for Slavs, not only in English but in other European languages and in Arabic.

A fact of the matter rarely considered is that African tribes routinely made war on each other, and sold their captives into slavery, a business facilitated largely by Arab merchants. It was a great way to "make money" and get rid of tribal rivals.

So Prof. Gates and TOTUS think it feasible to "extract" reparations from me, just because I'm a white American (who is half Slav)?

Seems to me they'd have to spin a pretty tall tale to sell that idea....

68 posted on 05/03/2010 10:04:36 AM PDT by betty boop (Nil desperandum.)
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To: betty boop; neverdem; Alamo-Girl; Quix; metmom
Socialism is slavery even serfdom to the government..
Any socialist bleeding themselves over slavery protests too much..
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"How do you tell a Socialist:- It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-Socialist someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Reagan

82 posted on 05/03/2010 6:18:15 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: betty boop
Indeed. Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ, and thank you for that engaging excerpt!
83 posted on 05/04/2010 10:39:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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