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To: ASOC
The rifle fired, and some 15 seconds later

This part seems, odd.

33 posted on 05/02/2010 10:20:49 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: 11Bush
15 seconds later, they got the confirmation.

Shot fired...One thousand one, one th...

Look at the board.

Wave flag or banner.

37 posted on 05/02/2010 10:30:28 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: 11Bush
Check the ballistics tables for a 45-70.

The chapter on long range firing begins with a report from the Armory at Springfield, Massachusetts, May 9, 1879. It records the results of long range tests of U.S. Army Model 1873 .45-caliber rifles using 405 and 500-grain lead bullets, including variations in muzzle velocity and penetration of lead bullets through one-inch target boards and into sand. These tests were made at the request of the Chief of Ordnance. His interest had been aroused by reports of long range infantry fire, up to 1½ miles, during the1877-78 Turko-Russian War. (There is another whole Winchester story on that war)

Remember, smokeless powder and the higher velocities it gives didn't hit the scene till 1888 and then it was the French that were the first to use the powder in military arms.

The .30-40 Krag/.30 U.S./.30 Army/.30 Government was a cartridge developed in the early 1890s to provide the US armed forces with a new, powerful round to fire from the rifle it was going to select in the 1892 trials. Since the round it was replacing was the .45-70 Government, the round was considered small-bore at the time. The rifle selected was ultimately the Krag-Jørgensen. It was the first round used by the US army designed for smokeless powder.

THe 30 Government became the 30-04, then the 30-06. Which in turn begat the 7.62 x 51, my fav single shot target round. And so ends the history of the world, at least this chapter....

39 posted on 05/02/2010 10:32:33 AM PDT by ASOC (I am available for spill response work, all I ask is $800/day plus expenses.....)
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To: 11Bush

Took time for bullet to arrive- be looked at- and readioed back to shooter.


51 posted on 05/02/2010 11:22:53 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 11Bush
The rifle fired, and some 15 seconds later

This part seems, odd.

Muzzle velocity of .45-70, with heavy (405 grn) bullet is 1330 fps, it's down to 1055 fps at 200 yards. Target is 2500 yards, or 7500 feet. Even averaging 1000 fps, that's 7.5 seconds, but it would be longer than that, since for most of the way it would be slower than 1000 fps. Also need to allow some time for reaction by the pit crew.

60 posted on 05/02/2010 12:28:24 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: 11Bush

It was a 45-70.

Much lower muzzle velocity than current cartridges.


72 posted on 05/02/2010 9:25:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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